New Everton Stadium

[Goat]

Why would build a hotel by the new ground if there's nowhere for tourists to sit in the new stadium!!

We dont want the tourists in the ground Frank, are you insane? We have enough WOOLS already, FFS.

 

[Frang]

We dont want the tourists in the ground Frank, are you insane? We have enough WOOLS already, FFS.

You being the wooliest of WOOLS

 

[Gareth Gibson]

So Colin Chong says no idea if or when capacity would be increased to maximum of 62k. Would need planning and further fan consultation at the time. Anybody who still thinks 52k is just to get through planning is insane. Once built it’ll never be increased.

Sadly it's patently obvious that the club have no intention of ever going above 52,000.

 

[gorgeousgeorgeEFC]

Our corporate hospitality is sold out, months in advance of the season. How would you define that as "low demand'?

We do not "struggle" to sell out any game. Last season we sold out every home game. This season I can think of one that didn't fully sell out (and it would have done had the away allocation been taken in full). Again how can this be assessed as "struggling to sell out" midweek games?

We have in all likelihood outgrown our ground 10, perhaps even 20 years ago, given we regularly sold out, and pretty much sold every none obstructed view seat in this period. The inflation in the game in terms of viewers in that time has been around 50%. If the same was true of Everton (as a base figure) we would have an average attendance of around the mid 50's.

You then throw in that clubs who move get an uplift from 55%-100% in their average attendance and you can see very easily where we can jump an attendance of 39k to 60k.

Either way, lets not try and make out we struggle to sell out games as we don't. Lets also not assume we know how many additional we may have, given we have thousands and thousands who can't get tickets for home games, in an older ground, with poor facilities in a poor area of the city.

Great post.

The closet reds on this forum love talking our great club down.

 

[Jeff Jones]

Why would build a hotel by the new ground if there's nowhere for tourists to sit in the new stadium!!

I've stayed in the hotel at Stamford Bridge and I can tell you that most, if not all of the guests were not Chelsea, or even football supporters.

 

[The binman chronicles]

not sure WHL has decent corporate?

Their stadium was one of the first to bring sky boxes to the fore in the UK. Trying to think of another that did it first but I can't.

The East stand also had a row of executive boxes across the stand, so the capacity must have dwarfed most clubs.

 

[Perseus]

If the new stadium is sold out every week, it's known to up the prices for the better located seats (not corporate boxes) upwards of £100 per game. Sort of executive class seats, that and only having cheapest seats behind the goal (which are all sold out for decades) can inflate the gate receipts. Free travel plan would escalate the cost of seats as well.

Mortgage: cost of stadium spread over 25 years in the accounts. £500 million would equal £20 million pa which seems a lot now but not so much in 10 years time. Then you have to wait for someone to die get an expensive season ticket = small ground mentality, quite a few clubs?

 

[H.H.]

Their stadium was one of the first to bring sky boxes to the fore in the UK. Trying to think of another that did it first but I can't.

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The East stand also had a row of executive boxes across the stand, so the capacity must have dwarfed most clubs.

Wolves and Forest opened very similar stands around the same time but which opened first I don't know?

About the stand Wolves build. I remember going there around 1981 and to stop any revenue loss, they were building their new stand behind the existing stand and when it opened it was miles from the pitch.
They did have plans to move the pitch nearer (which they eventually did many years later) but even now it's still not that close to the pitch (still at least 3 times further distance/gap than the stand at WHL.)

EDIT; The WHL stand opened in 1982.

 

[Neiler]

Dunno, theres money to be made, but it normally involves ripping off your fans with disgustingly high ticket prices.

How the actual f do Southampton and Brighton get more corporate revenue then us, id be flipping Christmas trees over if i was given a gift of a day out in a Southampton corporate box.

For shame EvErToN.

 

[Stephenlloyd]

Sadly it's patently obvious that the club have no intention of ever going above 52,000.

I didn’t think 52 was set in stone yet?

 

[Thetigerblue]

We are small time when you look into things without your blue shades on.

Appoint allardyce - about as low as any club goes

Sign players like tosun

Appoint a manager relegated with Hull and sacked by Watford.

No club above us operates in this way.

We are what we are. Mid table and lacking in any sort of ambition.

Who have been our most successful managers in our history?
Because if I look at their records they didn't pull up any trees before they joined us.
It takes 3 years to build winners. At least. It took Ferguson 5.
I want us to be the best team on the planet (I'm perfectly serious). But people have to have some sense here.

 

[banno]

Have to face facts here. If we are to catch up with the bigger clubs then our ticket prices will have to go up.
If we are able to fill the 52k stadium with thousands still wanting to get in then demand will force an increase of prices. That is just business. Be prepared.

 

[Perseus]

How the actual f do Southampton and Brighton get more corporate revenue then us, id be flipping Christmas trees over if i was given a gift of a day out in a Southampton corporate box.

For shame EvErToN.

It's much higher ticket prices on more in the medium range (many overpriced), executive priced seats, and no special offers to fill empty seats. Season ticket waiting lists. Not much corporate boxes at Brighton.

 

[RobSpurs]

Less than 10% of revenue comes from matchday income, so it’s not that important in the scheme of things.

No! That's exactly the situation you're trying to move away from! Clubs like Liverpool/Arsenal/Utd have a much more healthy split between TV and matchday and that's partly what gives them a huge competitive edge because it's a differentiator from other clubs in the league.

Relying on TV money means the likes of Bournemtouth/Cardiff/Huddersfield get richer at the same rate as you. Building a stadium that brings in an extra - say - £50m a year though....that's where you can gain a competitive advantage, push up towards the richer clubs and create a gap to the others. And the thing is you've got the fanbase to do that, it just needs to be maximised. Of course, corporate will come into that as well.

I hope from your pov the proposed design makes the expansion up to 62k is easy and cheap enough to do.

 

[Perseus]

Swiss Ramble. Debt classed as equity: