New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium

[onlyme]

...I always feel they lack soul. So many fans are recent fans and they’re fickle. It’s easy supporting City but away from the hard core fans many others are superficial.

To be fair they always had a hard core of 30k+ even when they were in the 3rd div. Maybe they enjoyed being the underdog

 

[arch stanton]

To be fair they always had a hard core of 30k+ even when they were in the 3rd div. Maybe they enjoyed being the underdog

I have a mate who followed them all through those times, I bumped into him recently for the first time in a couple of years and he said he can't identify with this team/club anymore, no longer a season ticket and the love has gone for the game for him.

 

[Perseus]

It's not necessarily 'ripping their fans off' as all of the clubs with the biggest match day income have the best spread of ticket offerings. It's essential we have this at BMD also as it's a key area of growth that can give us an edge over Brighton and the others currently side by side with us as @RobSpurs explains.

BMD should have basic seating, basic seats with lounge access (like the Park End) and other tiered hospitality options.This is one of the key issues people have with a low capacity as it sounds like it is limiting those areas.

If Brighton have gate receipts of £18 million on 30k gates, a new stadium could theoretically get £31 million gate receipts on 52k gates.

Amex stadium cost £125 million which is depreciated over 25 years at £5 million a year. Brighton's old ground could only generate say £3 million, so in the short term the investment brings in an extra £10 million a year in the PL (but only £3 million net extra a season in the Championship). It still means an investment debt of £200 million which is the 4th highest in British football.

New Everton stadium cost of £300 million, mortgaged interest free over 25 years is £12 million a year cost, but the extra gate receipts could be £31m less current £15 m = +£16 m less depreciation of £12 million a year, Quids in to the tune of £4 million a year.

£300 million would put Everton near the top of the debt table (current debt covered to equity).

Fans are willing to pay increased prices in a better stadium, with cheaper seats/standing behind the goals. Regular season tickets may be £700+ (=big club prices) and individual tickets with lounge access may be £100+ each per game with a limited supply and dress rules.

Smaller capacity has economic advantages.

They have stellar commercial revenues that's why.

I'm amazed at this thread reading posts saying that the match day revenue will make our turnover go up substantially when that is not the case, it's the third or 4th most important revenue for clubs.

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Right. A current low match day revenue makes the case for a new stadium a better economic proposition. Southampton,with their stadium no longer a debt, ten years (or 17 years for St. Marys which only cost £32 million) after a new stadium is built it does not seem such a mortgage burden. PS: Southampton could increase their capacity to 43K but nobody thinks they will.

 

[Jack1882]

New Everton stadium cost of £300 million, mortgaged interest free over 25 years is £12 million a year cost, but the extra gate receipts could be £31m less current £15 m = +£16 m less depreciation of £12 million a year, Quids in to the tune of £4 million a year.

I somewhat doubt that a 52k stadium will cost you guys £300m. It will probably end up a decent chunk cheaper than our new place but not a third of the price. My guess would be £500m or something.

 

[evertonarntwe]

Our ground holds say 40k. We're getting a new stadium with 10k more with less restriction views the " waiting list" get there tickets. If it sells out and you can't get q ticket then you don't go enough games to deserve a ticket not arsed. Stop moaningI can't [Poor language removed] wait for it me . Big boss staduim on the docks well be the big team

 

[Goat]

I somewhat doubt that a 52k stadium will cost you guys £300m. It will probably end up a decent chunk cheaper than our new place but not a third of the price. My guess would be £500m or something.

Well in excess of 500m.

 

[peteblue]

Well in excess of 500m.

Would be my guess.....

 

[Titus Bramble]

I think I’m most made up that we’re hearing news of plans progressing. Ive never been worried it wasn’t going to happen but I’m an impatient soul!

52k is probably the lower end of ‘acceptable’ capacity but we have to remember that that’s a 40% odd increase on what we have now which is a sizeable increase and as the project moves on this may well increase further.

Let’s hope the design is as iconic as we keep being told it will be.

 

[Perseus]

I somewhat doubt that a 52k stadium will cost you guys £300m. It will probably end up a decent chunk cheaper than our new place but not a third of the price. My guess would be £500m or something.

I agree.

 

[Gareth Gibson]

Relying on TV money means the likes of Bournemtouth/Cardiff/Huddersfield get richer at the same rate as you. Building a stadium that brings in an extra - say - £50m a year though....that's where you can gain a competitive advantage, push up towards the richer clubs and create a gap to the others. And the thing is you've got the fanbase to do that, it just needs to be maximised. Of course, corporate will come into that as well.

I hope from your pov the proposed design makes the expansion up to 62k is easy and cheap enough to do.

Brilliant post. You've hit the nail on the head.

 

[Gareth Gibson]

Relying on TV money means the likes of Bournemtouth/Cardiff/Huddersfield get richer at the same rate as you. Building a stadium that brings in an extra - say - £50m a year though....that's where you can gain a competitive advantage, push up towards the richer clubs and create a gap to the others. And the thing is you've got the fanbase to do that, it just needs to be maximised. Of course, corporate will come into that as well.

I hope from your pov the proposed design makes the expansion up to 62k is easy and cheap enough to do.

Brilliant post. You've hit the nail on the head.

 

[4737carlin]

Few more results like 2 6 and i think these plans will be getting released to deflect attention away from the pitch

 

[Frang]

Few more results like 2 6 and i think these plans will be getting released to deflect attention away from the pitch

or the capacity will go even further down..

what was the score today … oh yeah 6-2 ………

 

[H.H.]

Few more results like 2 6 and i think these plans will be getting released to deflect attention away from the pitch

I very much remember the hurt of results like this (I sometimes think I remember the bad results more than the good?) but getting a much needed new stadium built will be a much needed boost for the whole heart of the club (like ours.)

 

[Perseus]

I think rather than the tables posted some one please put up a table of the average cost of sitting in the various grounds that would be far better for comparative purpose.

Clubs calculate Match Income in a different way. Some like Brighton (includes £1 milion extra because of the transport plan) and Everton use gate receipts, including corporate. Others add in inhouse catering and on the day merchantising, probably accounts for the Chelsea high figure?