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So they can use that fan base to try and prevent us to move whenever the funding is actually found. That's exactly their strategy.

..and in every case they are opposite force. They want to be opposite force, keep in mind that just a while ago their main objective was to get board out. That didnt work so thats why i see this as a chance of tactics. If they really would want us to move forward they surely would want to co-operate with the board. They must realise that in that way they have bigger chance to get results.
 
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...but some of the pointless sniping in this thread is detracting from this.
Unfortunately the squabbling stems much further than within this thread. As others have pointed out, it appears to be a 'us versus them' situation.

Instead of focusing on the best interests of the club as whole, it appears to have become a squabble to undermine each others point of view.

Most fans, including myself, would probably agree that the whole affair isn't the simple 'black or white' (this or that) picture some are painting.

As mentioned earlier I'd genuinely love Goodison to be developed, although I simply do not see it as a feasible option for cost reasons alone.

Yet, that doesn't mean that I fully agree with some or all actions of the board, but a new stadium with a partner seems the only sensible option.

Is it the perfect option? No as I mentioned earlier. However, sometimes taking the middle ground (a compromise) is the only valid action.

Maintaining this current stance of squabbling and veiled criticisms of each perspective isn't moving the stadium on any further.

It's just causing division and further stagnation... maybe people cannot see that, regardless of what their actual sentiments may be.
 
Maintaining this current stance of squabbling and veiled criticisms of each perspective isn't moving the stadium on any further.

It's just causing division and further stagnation... maybe people cannot see that, regardless of what their actual sentiments may be.
Agree wholeheartedly with the above.
 

Goodison is landlocked,with residential dwellings,business and retail premises, a school and and a church to contend with too.
This will take decades of legal wrangling over the CPO's required to enable any redevelopment. Just as it did for those over the park when redeveloping the Kemlyn and Anfield rd stands.They've been acquiring properties round anfield for the last 25 years leaving them to rot in order to run down the area making CPO'S both cheaper and easier to achieve.
A similar timescale and tactics would be needed to redevelop Goodison. The best option would be to find a brownfield site and build a new stadium devoid of those constraints.
 
The best option would be to find a brownfield site and build a new stadium devoid of those constraints.
Exactly. It isn't the ideal or perfect solution for the majority of fans (not by any means), but it is the most suitable of the options available.

Currently, we simply aren't in the position to appease everyone or to construct an all singing, magnificent stadium in the ideal location.
 
November 2015 planning permission applied

Feb 2016 snazzy photo's published

March 2016 promo video done

July 2016 delays due to a cock and bull story.

Feb 2017 collapses due to another cock and bull story.

Pretty much 'game changer' to nothing inside of the last 6 months.

Repeat. Rinse. Repeat again. Clean.
 
Arguing about stadium redevelopment versus new stadium without funding in place is like arguing whether we should sign Messi or Ronaldo.

Without the funding it won't happen. We're back at square one, investment in the club....
that needs to be the focus.

The elephant in the room for the phased development is that you need £30million/£40million as against £200million.
 

Goodison is landlocked,with residential dwellings,business and retail premises, a school and and a church to contend with too.
This will take decades of legal wrangling over the CPO's required to enable any redevelopment. Just as it did for those over the park when redeveloping the Kemlyn and Anfield rd stands.They've been acquiring properties round anfield for the last 25 years leaving them to rot in order to run down the area making CPO'S both cheaper and easier to achieve.
A similar timescale and tactics would be needed to redevelop Goodison. The best option would be to find a brownfield site and build a new stadium devoid of those constraints.

See many earlier posts thats says they are on the third stadium site and still cannot come up with a plan.
 
The elephant in the room for the phased development is that you need £30million/£40million as against £200million.
You need a lot more. Liverpool paid over 30% of the cost of their new stand in just buying up the properties around.

Hopefully with a new stadium that's where the council come in.
 
You need a lot more. Liverpool paid over 30% of the cost of their new stand in just buying up the properties around.

Hopefully with a new stadium that's where the council come in.

This has been discussed extensively before in this thread so I'm probably wasting my time, but the majority of the re-development plans being discussed don't require buying any properties. Certainly not for the first few stages - which would give us everything a new stadium would give us in terms of capacity and corporate facilities.
 
This has been discussed extensively before in this thread so I'm probably wasting my time, but the majority of the re-development plans being discussed don't require buying any properties. Certainly not for the first few stages - which would give us everything a new stadium would give us in terms of capacity and corporate facilities.
I find that very hard to believe but it's not just that reason.

The reason Goodison isn't feasible is because what we lack is not extra seats or even more corporate boxes. What we lack is a modern ground that corporations want to go to "do business". It would require a complete rebuilding of Goodison and buying up all the neighboring property. Goodison is too old and too scruffy and rebuilding one stand isn't going to change that.
 

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