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New Everton Stadium

peteblue said:
The club will build whatever they want and will take no notice of the fans. 52K will no doubt be fine and better than not building a new ground, but I too believe we would fill a 60K stadium....
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yeah but it can go higher than 60k it apparently can go uptown 62k, is it not better to do that in stages making sure that we actually sell outbefor going to big like city did with empty seats
 
GwladysPhil said:
Weird way to be a grass.

Andy, tell Esk he chats wham.
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And @GrumpyBlue

Yeah, Esk and I are acquainted and whilst we don't agree on absolutely everything, I fully support the reasoning in his latest article.
I respect his business acumen and find his analysis of the business side of the club stimulating... and very far from being wham.

Lots on here don't and I put a lot of that down to a couple of ill-advised (benefit of hindsight) posts/tweets on players signings.
 
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Not sure what The Esks background is but I'm sure Everton FC will have employed people to analyse and gather data that he has and the conclusion they have come to is 52k. I know people want a stick to beat Moshiri and Kenwright with but I'm sure they have done due diligence on all matters and Dan Meis must have had his say. Never happy some people, 52k isn't small by the way and if we want a bigger capacity we need to start winning things regularly.
 
I guess some people think if it's 60k then we'll be European Champions quicker. The reality is we're a bang-average Premiership side with little hope of winning anything in the near future. If we can get a 50k stadium with the ability to increase the capacity that would be absolutely fine. The design and uniqueness of the stadium is far more important than having an extra 5-10k seats.
 
AndyC said:
And @GrumpyBlue

Yeah, Esk and I are acquainted and whilst we don't agree on absolutely everything, I fully support the reasoning in his latest article.
I respect his business acumen and find his analysis of the business side of the club stimulating... and very far from being wham.

Lots on here don't and I put a lot of that down to a couple of ill-advised (benefit of hindsight) posts/tweets on players signings.
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The whole Usmanov at Arsenal thing proved he just went on hunches and not facts a lot of the time
Usmanov will never sell
Usmanov will sell to anyone except Kronke
He persisted with this for months and posted numerous articles on it and Usmanov would never get involved in Everton
He put his opinion out there , claimed it was fact and was proven totally wrong on all things Usmanov
I think it’s the fact that he wouldn’t hold his hands up and admit he got it totally wrong is what annoyed people
 

Brisan123 said:
The whole Usmanov at Arsenal thing proved he just went on hunches and not facts a lot of the time
Usmanov will never sell
Usmanov will sell to anyone except Kronke
He persisted with this for months and posted numerous articles on it and Usmanov would never get involved in Everton
He put his opinion out there , claimed it was fact and was proven totally wrong on all things Usmanov
I think it’s the fact that he wouldn’t hold his hands up and admit he got it totally wrong is what annoyed people
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Transfer attention seeking BS aside. I sometimes find the way he communicates his educated guesses quite patronising, Understandably has a favourable hobby within football finance, but needs to stop acting as though he's a spokesmen for the club to the fans - his articles are not "right".

A bit of me died every time people said "our very own Esk",
 
BernieH said:
Not sure what The Esks background is but I'm sure Everton FC will have employed people to analyse and gather data that he has and the conclusion they have come to is 52k. I know people want a stick to beat Moshiri and Kenwright with but I'm sure they have done due diligence on all matters and Dan Meis must have had his say. Never happy some people, 52k isn't small by the way and if we want a bigger capacity we need to start winning things regularly.
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The issue I have with his analysis is that he estimates that it would cost an additional £80m to build 10,000 extra seats (which may or may not be accurate), and he kind of just waives away this additional cost by saying that Moshiri has to pay for it. Well fine, he can make any assumptions he likes, but if Moshiri really is happy to put in an additional £80m, why not apply that to both case studies, so that in the case of the 52,000 seat stadium, Everton has £80m less debt?
 
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BernieH said:
Not sure what The Esks background is but I'm sure Everton FC will have employed people to analyse and gather data that he has and the conclusion they have come to is 52k. I know people want a stick to beat Moshiri a nd Kenwright with but I'm sure they have done due diligence on all matters and Dan Meis must have had his say. Never happy some people, 52k isn't small by the way and if we want a bigger capacity we need to start winning things regularly.
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A bit naive here I think. Consultants are typically taken on to give the commissioners of a study what they want as an outcome. In this instance I would imagine they were working within parameters that had affordability at their core and the transport/access issues. There is absolutely no way that any independent study would recommend a capacity of only 52,000.
 
mrb85 said:
A bit naive here I think. Consultants are typically taken on to give the commissioners of a study what they want as an outcome. In this instance I would imagine they were working within parameters that had affordability at their core and the transport/access issues. There is absolutely no way that any independent study would recommend a capacity of only 52,000.
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it would if all the evidence said you would never regularly fill 60k seats. why pay debt to service empty seats?
people seem to think the club hasn't weighed all these outcomes up to arrive at their plan.
 

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