Because during and after the Kirkby fiasco, the Club kept repeating and repeating the fact? while forgetting their own redevelopment plans that were options with Kings Dock.
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Because during and after the Kirkby fiasco, the Club kept repeating and repeating the fact? while forgetting their own redevelopment plans that were options with Kings Dock.
Another example of incompetence. No Plan B ever.
The Esk
Player Valuation: £70m
The steelworks alone at Anfield cost £43 million, with the total mainstand redevelopment budgeted at £75 million (excluding land costs).
I appreciate that costs in the North West are going to be lower than in London, but Chelsea estimate that their redevelopment will cost £500 million and Tottenham's new stadium is estimated at £400 million, so to believe that Everton are going to need more than £200 million is not unrealistic (assuming we are not going for a cheap Barr type construction)
I appreciate that costs in the North West are going to be lower than in London, but Chelsea estimate that their redevelopment will cost £500 million and Tottenham's new stadium is estimated at £400 million, so to believe that Everton are going to need more than £200 million is not unrealistic (assuming we are not going for a cheap Barr type construction)
Dithering Dougie
Banned
I was comparing a redevelopment of the whole of goodison from the plans on the toffeeweb link and Anfields current redevelopment that have been costed a roughly the same amount incredibly, not Kirby.
Out of interest would a company like yours find it easier to work on a new build stadium over a modification development?
The Esk
Player Valuation: £70m
Yes, there was the document asking for opinions on Kings Dock and 2 alternative redevelopments of Goodison - one for a 45,000 seater and the other 55,000 (from memory)
I think its on the NSNO site somewhere
The Esk
Player Valuation: £70m
Found it on EFCSA - http://www.efcsa.org/wp-content/uploads/everton accounts/Colour Kings Waterfront Brochure.pdf (download)
yep that's the one. I would of been happy with the worst of those 3 options.
Personal opinion: Just for the KD failure Bill should've been tarred and feathered 12 yrs since
TheFinnFan
Finners
So again. .what is boards motivation to push new stadia? Why leave Goodison when we as a club treasure our history...and if it can be done....why?
Is it because it wouldnt give us the possibility to grow as a club ...financially I mean....do we need more capacity to do that?
Is it because it wouldnt give us the possibility to grow as a club ...financially I mean....do we need more capacity to do that?
Fresh Prince of Belle Val
Player Valuation: £35m
Stadiums were much cheaper to build back then. The price of steel and other factors have shot up in the last 10 years. Due to the Chinese buying steel etc. We really did miss the boat with the Kings Dock. Luckily we didn't get Kirkby though.
MickA
Player Valuation: £10m
From Day 10 of the Kirkby Inquiry....
Mr. Lancaster hypothesized that if the club was sold, there wouldn't be a requirement for the £52M cross subsidy; the £52M wouldn't be needed. Mr. Lancaster asked, “What happens if a Manchester City occurred the day after this inquiry closes?” Robert Elstone replied, “Who knows?” Mr Lancaster asked about average attendances in recent Premier League fixtures, indicating that no game had an attendance of 50,000 and only Manchester United and Arsenal actually had gates of that magnitude, Robert Elstone explained that Newcastle, Sunderland and Manchester City have those capacities and that Liverpool, Tottenham and Chelsea plan to develop grounds with that capacity.
Mr Lancaster, now in full flow, then suggested that Everton were trying to steal a march over their rivals by getting a bigger stadium, a stadium that they can't afford. He established that no investment had gone into GP in the last thirteen years and that it wouldn't cost that much to improve facilities. He finished off by suggesting to Robert Elstone that if a private business received £52m from a council and then its owners sold up and made an increased profit due to that money, “there would be a public outcry wouldn't there?” “Perhaps” replied the Everton CEO.
Whether you feel that the current incumbents of the boardroom are still looking for a maximum sale for minimum investment is up to you.
The Esk
Player Valuation: £70m
Actually mate, steel prices are at their cheapest since well before the 2008 credit crunch. almost back to 2002/3 prices. Prices peaked in early 2008 and are now roughly a third of that level.
Good time to build a stadium.....
Fresh Prince of Belle Val
Player Valuation: £35m
It's gone full circle, let's get building Bill. Bill the builder I like it.
I'm not surprised you want it confining to the annals of history when you posted utter tosh like this in support of it.
new stadium
Bang goes any chance of our beloved club having any chance of sizeable investment,the club cannot move forward when its affairs are dictated by a gang of local publicans.
Championship withi 2 years i reckon.
bourneblue, Aug 6, 2008
Do you think we'll make the play offs this season?
carolinablue232
Player Valuation: £70m
So it sounds like we either need a new stadium or at least a facelift for Goodison. Question though. Outside of the actual stadium, how do Everton's facilities stack up against some of the big boys like Aresenal, City, United, etc.? If we're recruiting players to join, and they come to Everton, will they be impressed? I've heard Finch Farm is quite nice, but is it that nice relative to the other club's facilities?