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New Everton Stadium

Joeharper07 said:
You share my scepticism regards LW , I started on the Waping dock apartments around 84 and come nearly 20 years later was just completing Waterloo warehouse , since another 15 years only one building has gone past it and that is still not complete .

Keep seeing comments how BMD is gonna make rich people richer yet you can build now if you want BMD or not . I too am around that area a lot and still don’t see or hear of anything happening between Waterloo Warehouse and BMD , to say the whole area is a building site is pushing it.

There appears to be activity regards LOR on site and one of the other posters in here has given a great insight to what’s happening behind the scenes .

I do think it will certainly be built but am sceptical about what will evolve around it and don’t think it will happen straight away , match days will be spent on the concourse or in the few boozers still around there or a trek into town straight after .
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Agree. If it's going to make an awful lot of already rich people even richer then it will happen EFC or not.

With LW I desperatly hope it all comes to fruition but I'm going to remain sceptical until we see real, and good, job creation. yet more apartments plus another Baltic type start-up zone I'm not sure can carry that but then I'm no expert. Paddington is looking good but I think that's firmly anchored with the medical/uni profession.

BMD looking very good with the amount of people getting on-site already. Hoping PP will be a formality.

BNJ1878 said:
I'll hazard a guess at Half Empty.

It's a massive development. And whilst it's been painfully slow getting going (LW) I'm sure with a little momentum things will puck up.
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Hope so mate. Not a chance I'd live there though, far too windy.
 
GwladysBlue said:
Apartments, too.

No matter what our presence is already encouraging investment into the area.
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I said specifically infrastructure. And there's zero evidence they are being built there because of the stadium. More likely because of Stanley Dock/Titanic and the stimulus to living in that area that they are bringing.
 
MickA said:
Not a chance I'd live there though, far too windy.
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In three years time people are going to have to invest in some serious cold weather clothing , don’t think people realise how cold it will be on the Mersey from nov to feb , a mate of mine I bumped into at Waterloo dock living there , seen him a year later said he had to move it was so cold down there
 
Joeharper07 said:
In three years time people are going to have to invest in some serious cold weather clothing , don’t think people realise how cold it will be on the Mersey from nov to feb , a mate of mine I bumped into at Waterloo dock living there , seen him a year later said he had to move it was so cold down there
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A small price to pay if that means the stadium has been built.
And let's hope the football on view will take our minds off any adverse weather.
 

Joeharper07 said:
In three years time people are going to have to invest in some serious cold weather clothing , don’t think people realise how cold it will be on the Mersey from nov to feb , a mate of mine I bumped into at Waterloo dock living there , seen him a year later said he had to move it was so cold down there
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Heated seats mate, and it will be like the Bahamas.
 
BNJ1878 said:
The only reason we got BM off Liverpool Waters was to bookend the whole development.

A stadium (and add ons) will hopefully build confidence in the overall project and it will fill up from both ends.
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That has been the basis from day one. Evertonians know that. Kopites don't because right from the start they thought it was pie in the sky thinking.
Now we're potentially weeks from being granted planning permission, they're all crapping in their skids and are rattled beyond belief.
 
GON ZO BLUE said:
Here's are the words that matter from that article:

"Everton have enlisted international banks JP Morgan and MUFG to help find the backers with the club having been in deep discussions with a clutch of potential lenders."

Have a look at the date on this article and you'll see the appointment of JP Morgan and MUFG was well before the pandemic, it's old news being reused, JP Morgan and MUFG have thus far failed to find EFC funding and they've been trying a long time.

In fact those two banks have been looking for over a year and failed, they didn't start looking just last month!

https://www.business-live.co.uk/economic-development/record-losses-naming-rights-deal-17572399 (see point number 4)

It will be even harder JP Morgan and MUFG to find funding now and if they couldn't do it before the pandemic you can forget them doing it now.

You really should check you sources before you provide them.;);););)
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Im torn by this, for me the funding has to be already fully settled and in place or simply this project doesn't continue until there is a clear route forward post Covid.

In terms of a "financed by potential lenders" project, it makes absolutely no sense to do it now. Why would you lend to build a stadium for a sport with no roadmap as to how, when or in what format crowds will return to games? Let's hope that is next year, but that already looks increasingly unlikely & we are already seeing 2021 summer sporting events suggesting they are going to have to cancel soon.
 

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This time next year hopefully.
 

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