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New Everton Stadium

Sorry mate but we been building this stadium how long now?? We bought the land, What 2 years ago And it’s going to be another 6 months at least till we start building it and that doesn’t include if the government get called in... which is another 6 months on top.. mimimum

I've worked on jobs which were in design for 9 years before they even got to planning, never mind being built.
 
Sorry mate but we been building this stadium how long now?? We bought the land, What 2 years ago And it’s going to be another 6 months at least till we start building it and that doesn’t include if the government get called in... which is another 6 months on top.. mimimum
Woah buddy. We have not 'bought' the land at BMD. We have an option to rent it for 200 years subject to planning and financing if I remember rightly.
 

This won't get called in. Almost everyone involved wants it to happen.

These are exactly the kinds of projects the government wants to build the economy back.

Got to say, that's definitely been my feeling for a while. A huge privately funded development in the north, there's no way this government will call it in. I fully expect BoJo to be there in a hard hat in a year or two.

But...the wording of the new statement does put a bit of doubt in my mind.

Even if it's still unlikely, it does read like there's concern from the club that call-in could happen. Enough concern that they've released a statement that pre-empts protests they hoped wouldn't happen (what with all the consultation carried out), and unsubtly quotes Johnson's new 'build, build' build' slogan in the opening paragraph. This is a message to the government as much as it's an update on the plans.
 
I’d love for a statement from these suits at Heritage England, UNESCO and the Victorian Society detailing exactly why a derelict dock that does nothing for a city provides over this stadium project.

Joke organisations that should be scrapped. This city is on its knees and needs the economic boost this project will provide.

Most of them have probably never visited Liverpool in their lives.
Conservation groups. They want to conserve. To protect. They usually resist development in any conservation zone. Development does happen in these areas though in spite of objections. There's a balance between conserving what should be conserved and progress. The stadium probably fits into this area so I expect its nothing worth worrying about.
 
But...the wording of the new statement does put a bit of doubt in my mind.

Even if it's still unlikely, it does read like there's concern from the club that call-in could happen.
I see nothing sinister lurking in Everton's statement.

I don't know how long you've been following our stadium travails, but the club are being incredibly careful for historical reasons. We've repeatedly been let down over various new stadia plans over the last 25 years.

The last thing they want to do is say anything is certain.
 

I’d love for a statement from these suits at Heritage England, UNESCO and the Victorian Society detailing exactly why a derelict dock that does nothing for a city provides over this stadium project.

Joke organisations that should be scrapped. This city is on its knees and needs the economic boost this project will provide.

Most of them have probably never visited Liverpool in their lives.


Apologies if this has already been posted - but this is posted by Historic England

NOT MY WORDS - dont shoot me down


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Everton FC New Stadium
Liverpool’s docks were the heart of this incredible city and the principal source of its spectacular wealth. In 1844 five new docks, the Stanley Dock complex, were built in one phase. They represent the pinnacle of 19th century dock design and cargo-handling and influenced ports around the globe. The Grade II listed Bramley-Moore Dock, the largest of the five docks, was built for use by the largest steamers of the time. Its international significance led to its inclusion in the Liverpool Maritime Mercantile City World Heritage Site and in the Stanley Dock Conservation Area.

Football has always formed a defining part of Liverpool’s identity and is a key part of the city’s unique and fascinating history, and Historic England acknowledges Everton Football Club’s desire to relocate from Goodison Park to create a state of the art facility that reflects the club’s status and history.
It has been clear throughout our extensive and productive discussions with the Club that part of the draw of Bramley-Moore Dock is its exceptional context, and that there is a strong desire to build a new stadium that is sensitive to its surroundings and of a standard of design respectful of its context. This is further highlighted by the positive enhancements made to the design of the stadium over the summer.
However, we consider that the proposal to infill the dock would result in substantial harm to the significance of the Grade II listed Bramley-Moore Dock and cause harm to the World Heritage Site.
Due to the impact of the proposals on a World Heritage Site, which has the highest level of heritage protection and is internationally significant, we think that this application should be determined by the Secretary of State and will ask for it to be called in for his determination. We have also advised that the application should be refused, unless the decision-maker concludes that the public benefits would outweigh the substantial harm to Bramley-Moore dock and the harm to the World Heritage Site which the proposals would cause.

ends.
 
Apologies if this has already been posted - but this is posted by Historic England

NOT MY WORDS - dont shoot me down

____________________________________________________________


Everton FC New Stadium
Liverpool’s docks were the heart of this incredible city and the principal source of its spectacular wealth. In 1844 five new docks, the Stanley Dock complex, were built in one phase. They represent the pinnacle of 19th century dock design and cargo-handling and influenced ports around the globe. The Grade II listed Bramley-Moore Dock, the largest of the five docks, was built for use by the largest steamers of the time. Its international significance led to its inclusion in the Liverpool Maritime Mercantile City World Heritage Site and in the Stanley Dock Conservation Area.

Football has always formed a defining part of Liverpool’s identity and is a key part of the city’s unique and fascinating history, and Historic England acknowledges Everton Football Club’s desire to relocate from Goodison Park to create a state of the art facility that reflects the club’s status and history.
It has been clear throughout our extensive and productive discussions with the Club that part of the draw of Bramley-Moore Dock is its exceptional context, and that there is a strong desire to build a new stadium that is sensitive to its surroundings and of a standard of design respectful of its context. This is further highlighted by the positive enhancements made to the design of the stadium over the summer.
However, we consider that the proposal to infill the dock would result in substantial harm to the significance of the Grade II listed Bramley-Moore Dock and cause harm to the World Heritage Site.
Due to the impact of the proposals on a World Heritage Site, which has the highest level of heritage protection and is internationally significant, we think that this application should be determined by the Secretary of State and will ask for it to be called in for his determination. We have also advised that the application should be refused, unless the decision-maker concludes that the public benefits would outweigh the substantial harm to Bramley-Moore dock and the harm to the World Heritage Site which the proposals would cause.

ends.

Historic England Statement:

We would like this dock to remain closed to the public so no one can see its beauty or what used to go on until global warming causes the rises which will mean the area will be lost to the sea.

In over news, we are devising a plan to put a large tent over Stonehenge to protect the monument so that future generations can see this, well the painting on the side of the tent anyhow and allows us to see inside without the riff raff being around.
 
Apologies if this has already been posted - but this is posted by Historic England

NOT MY WORDS - dont shoot me down

____________________________________________________________


Everton FC New Stadium
Liverpool’s docks were the heart of this incredible city and the principal source of its spectacular wealth. In 1844 five new docks, the Stanley Dock complex, were built in one phase. They represent the pinnacle of 19th century dock design and cargo-handling and influenced ports around the globe. The Grade II listed Bramley-Moore Dock, the largest of the five docks, was built for use by the largest steamers of the time. Its international significance led to its inclusion in the Liverpool Maritime Mercantile City World Heritage Site and in the Stanley Dock Conservation Area.

Football has always formed a defining part of Liverpool’s identity and is a key part of the city’s unique and fascinating history, and Historic England acknowledges Everton Football Club’s desire to relocate from Goodison Park to create a state of the art facility that reflects the club’s status and history.
It has been clear throughout our extensive and productive discussions with the Club that part of the draw of Bramley-Moore Dock is its exceptional context, and that there is a strong desire to build a new stadium that is sensitive to its surroundings and of a standard of design respectful of its context. This is further highlighted by the positive enhancements made to the design of the stadium over the summer.
However, we consider that the proposal to infill the dock would result in substantial harm to the significance of the Grade II listed Bramley-Moore Dock and cause harm to the World Heritage Site.
Due to the impact of the proposals on a World Heritage Site, which has the highest level of heritage protection and is internationally significant, we think that this application should be determined by the Secretary of State and will ask for it to be called in for his determination. We have also advised that the application should be refused, unless the decision-maker concludes that the public benefits would outweigh the substantial harm to Bramley-Moore dock and the harm to the World Heritage Site which the proposals would cause.


ends.

What a load of B/S. AS they stand now the docks have nothing, they are just a derelict site, what is there about BMD that needs to be conserved and if so who pays and what does it become. This is how shortsighted these lot are. What is there, just some tin sheds and a yard of timber FFS. Where is the heritage?
 
Historical England Statement:

We would like this dock to remain closed to the public so no one can see it's beauty or what used to go on until global warming causes the rises which will mean the area will be lost to the sea.

In over news, we are devising a plan to put a large tent over Stonehenge to protect the monument so that future generations can see this, well the painting on the side of the tent anyhow and allows us to see inside without the riff raff being around.

What beauty is there of BMD and if it is closed no one can see it anyway if there is any.
 
Apologies if this has already been posted - but this is posted by Historic England

NOT MY WORDS - dont shoot me down


____________________________________________________________


Everton FC New Stadium
Liverpool’s docks were the heart of this incredible city and the principal source of its spectacular wealth. In 1844 five new docks, the Stanley Dock complex, were built in one phase. They represent the pinnacle of 19th century dock design and cargo-handling and influenced ports around the globe. The Grade II listed Bramley-Moore Dock, the largest of the five docks, was built for use by the largest steamers of the time. Its international significance led to its inclusion in the Liverpool Maritime Mercantile City World Heritage Site and in the Stanley Dock Conservation Area.

Football has always formed a defining part of Liverpool’s identity and is a key part of the city’s unique and fascinating history, and Historic England acknowledges Everton Football Club’s desire to relocate from Goodison Park to create a state of the art facility that reflects the club’s status and history.
It has been clear throughout our extensive and productive discussions with the Club that part of the draw of Bramley-Moore Dock is its exceptional context, and that there is a strong desire to build a new stadium that is sensitive to its surroundings and of a standard of design respectful of its context. This is further highlighted by the positive enhancements made to the design of the stadium over the summer.
However, we consider that the proposal to infill the dock would result in substantial harm to the significance of the Grade II listed Bramley-Moore Dock and cause harm to the World Heritage Site.
Due to the impact of the proposals on a World Heritage Site, which has the highest level of heritage protection and is internationally significant, we think that this application should be determined by the Secretary of State and will ask for it to be called in for his determination. We have also advised that the application should be refused, unless the decision-maker concludes that the public benefits would outweigh the substantial harm to Bramley-Moore dock and the harm to the World Heritage Site which the proposals would cause.

ends.
What was the point in us making alterations to the design to make them happier when they never wanted it there in the first place & were always going to complain about it? Pointless discussions based on worthless complaints when it didn't really matter what was being built at all.
 

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