New Everton Stadium

But they are all Ipad and Iphone camera waving red scum customers .
Do not want that shower near our stadium

Like it or not mate that is the sort of fan we need to attract - them and the rich business type to sell loads of executive boxes to.

It's the whole point in having a big stadium and attracting more fans.
 
As I've mentioned above, I don't remember them kicking up such a fuss when Liverpool One was built.

If I remember correctly, that's a medieval dock it's sat on top of, isn't it?

As mentioned Liverpool One replaced a total eyesore but regardless, it was always going to be built. The Duke of Westminster could have planned the worlds largest phallus there and it would have been granted.

As for King's Dock yeah that too was filled in in the 70s. Was derelict then a car park or years until the recent developments.

What's to stop us upping sticks so to speak and taking the same design of stadium and going to, say, the festival gardens site?

Not sure if true or not but heard there is huge issues with the groundworks at the former IGF site hence the lack of progress in the last 35+ years.
 
CEO of Downtown in Business Frank McKenna is furious heritage concerns are holding up Everton’s new £500m stadium and says World Heritage Status is more trouble than it’s worth. Tony McDonough reports
Everton
Everton FC has made changes to the design of its new stadium at Bramley Moore Dock

Liverpool business leader Frank McKenna has renewed his call for the city to hand back its World Heritage Status following news it was holding up Everton’s new £500m stadium.
On Wednesday, Everton FC told fans there would be a further 28-day public consultation on the project at Bramley Moore Dock after objections from the heritage lobby forced changes to the design.
Although the stadium will be built in Liverpool Waters, which is outside of the WHS zone, it would be in a so-called buffer zone. Among the changes made to the design are a lowering of the overall height of the structure.
Last year the chief executive of business lobby and membership group Downtown in Business, Frank McKenna, claimed the WHS status was a “vanity badge” and that it should be handed back to UNESCO which he called a “faceless, unaccountable body”.
UNESCO has threatened to withdraw WHS several times over the past few years over concerns that new developments, in particular Peel’s Liverpool Waters, would have a detrimental impact on Liverpool’s world-famous waterfront.
Now Mr McKenna is repeating his calls for the WHS badge to be handed back. He said:” “Even a pandemic and the huge economic impact it will have on Liverpool does not register with these people who want to put Liverpool in aspic. They are still content to delay or even stop a major, job creating, regeneration scheme.
“I can’t be the only one who is fed up with the city having to constantly go cap in hand to this faceless, unaccountable body, amending plans, stymying regeneration and pausing progress in order to retain a title that is worth little or nothing in economic, tourism or cultural terms.
“Can the ordinary Liverpudlian understand how an abandoned, derelict part of the city can be considered a ‘heritage site’ that needs to be protected?
photo-04-06-2019-14-23-00-e1561721144578.jpg
Frank McKenna, chief executive of Downtown in Business. Picture by Tony McDonough

“And, at this moment in time particularly, do we want to be sending a signal to international investors that, as well as all the usual planning rules and regulations they have to face to get development plans approved, here in Liverpool there are additional hoops that they have to jump through?
“Whereas Everton FC have no option but to build and invest in the city, global investors can take their money anywhere. Why would they choose Liverpool if they know they will have to add into their timings and costs the almost inevitable obstructions from the heritage lobby for any potential development?”
Mr McKenna also said that he fully accepted the importance of ensuring new buildings should meet a quality threshold, but added: “The power and influence that the heritage lobby has in the city is unhealthy.
“The madness of heritage being used to object to Everton’s iconic scheme can only be fully appreciated if you recognise that the site for the development has been derelict wasteland for decades
“ It is time to tell UNESCO to take back their vanity badge and give Liverpool have the best possible chance of bouncing back from a crisis that has already seen a huge increase in jobless figures in the city region.”
 
CEO of Downtown in Business Frank McKenna is furious heritage concerns are holding up Everton’s new £500m stadium and says World Heritage Status is more trouble than it’s worth. Tony McDonough reports
Everton
Everton FC has made changes to the design of its new stadium at Bramley Moore Dock

Liverpool business leader Frank McKenna has renewed his call for the city to hand back its World Heritage Status following news it was holding up Everton’s new £500m stadium.
On Wednesday, Everton FC told fans there would be a further 28-day public consultation on the project at Bramley Moore Dock after objections from the heritage lobby forced changes to the design.
Although the stadium will be built in Liverpool Waters, which is outside of the WHS zone, it would be in a so-called buffer zone. Among the changes made to the design are a lowering of the overall height of the structure.
Last year the chief executive of business lobby and membership group Downtown in Business, Frank McKenna, claimed the WHS status was a “vanity badge” and that it should be handed back to UNESCO which he called a “faceless, unaccountable body”.
UNESCO has threatened to withdraw WHS several times over the past few years over concerns that new developments, in particular Peel’s Liverpool Waters, would have a detrimental impact on Liverpool’s world-famous waterfront.
Now Mr McKenna is repeating his calls for the WHS badge to be handed back. He said:” “Even a pandemic and the huge economic impact it will have on Liverpool does not register with these people who want to put Liverpool in aspic. They are still content to delay or even stop a major, job creating, regeneration scheme.
“I can’t be the only one who is fed up with the city having to constantly go cap in hand to this faceless, unaccountable body, amending plans, stymying regeneration and pausing progress in order to retain a title that is worth little or nothing in economic, tourism or cultural terms.
“Can the ordinary Liverpudlian understand how an abandoned, derelict part of the city can be considered a ‘heritage site’ that needs to be protected?
photo-04-06-2019-14-23-00-e1561721144578.jpg
Frank McKenna, chief executive of Downtown in Business. Picture by Tony McDonough

“And, at this moment in time particularly, do we want to be sending a signal to international investors that, as well as all the usual planning rules and regulations they have to face to get development plans approved, here in Liverpool there are additional hoops that they have to jump through?
“Whereas Everton FC have no option but to build and invest in the city, global investors can take their money anywhere. Why would they choose Liverpool if they know they will have to add into their timings and costs the almost inevitable obstructions from the heritage lobby for any potential development?”
Mr McKenna also said that he fully accepted the importance of ensuring new buildings should meet a quality threshold, but added: “The power and influence that the heritage lobby has in the city is unhealthy.
“The madness of heritage being used to object to Everton’s iconic scheme can only be fully appreciated if you recognise that the site for the development has been derelict wasteland for decades
“ It is time to tell UNESCO to take back their vanity badge and give Liverpool have the best possible chance of bouncing back from a crisis that has already seen a huge increase in jobless figures in the city region.”
Franks proper sound
 
CEO of Downtown in Business Frank McKenna is furious heritage concerns are holding up Everton’s new £500m stadium and says World Heritage Status is more trouble than it’s worth. Tony McDonough reports
Everton
Everton FC has made changes to the design of its new stadium at Bramley Moore Dock

Liverpool business leader Frank McKenna has renewed his call for the city to hand back its World Heritage Status following news it was holding up Everton’s new £500m stadium.
On Wednesday, Everton FC told fans there would be a further 28-day public consultation on the project at Bramley Moore Dock after objections from the heritage lobby forced changes to the design.
Although the stadium will be built in Liverpool Waters, which is outside of the WHS zone, it would be in a so-called buffer zone. Among the changes made to the design are a lowering of the overall height of the structure.
Last year the chief executive of business lobby and membership group Downtown in Business, Frank McKenna, claimed the WHS status was a “vanity badge” and that it should be handed back to UNESCO which he called a “faceless, unaccountable body”.
UNESCO has threatened to withdraw WHS several times over the past few years over concerns that new developments, in particular Peel’s Liverpool Waters, would have a detrimental impact on Liverpool’s world-famous waterfront.
Now Mr McKenna is repeating his calls for the WHS badge to be handed back. He said:” “Even a pandemic and the huge economic impact it will have on Liverpool does not register with these people who want to put Liverpool in aspic. They are still content to delay or even stop a major, job creating, regeneration scheme.
“I can’t be the only one who is fed up with the city having to constantly go cap in hand to this faceless, unaccountable body, amending plans, stymying regeneration and pausing progress in order to retain a title that is worth little or nothing in economic, tourism or cultural terms.
“Can the ordinary Liverpudlian understand how an abandoned, derelict part of the city can be considered a ‘heritage site’ that needs to be protected?
photo-04-06-2019-14-23-00-e1561721144578.jpg
Frank McKenna, chief executive of Downtown in Business. Picture by Tony McDonough

“And, at this moment in time particularly, do we want to be sending a signal to international investors that, as well as all the usual planning rules and regulations they have to face to get development plans approved, here in Liverpool there are additional hoops that they have to jump through?
“Whereas Everton FC have no option but to build and invest in the city, global investors can take their money anywhere. Why would they choose Liverpool if they know they will have to add into their timings and costs the almost inevitable obstructions from the heritage lobby for any potential development?”
Mr McKenna also said that he fully accepted the importance of ensuring new buildings should meet a quality threshold, but added: “The power and influence that the heritage lobby has in the city is unhealthy.
“The madness of heritage being used to object to Everton’s iconic scheme can only be fully appreciated if you recognise that the site for the development has been derelict wasteland for decades
“ It is time to tell UNESCO to take back their vanity badge and give Liverpool have the best possible chance of bouncing back from a crisis that has already seen a huge increase in jobless figures in the city region.”
McKenna....could you stoop a bit lower for comment? No!
 

CEO of Downtown in Business Frank McKenna is furious heritage concerns are holding up Everton’s new £500m stadium and says World Heritage Status is more trouble than it’s worth. Tony McDonough reports
Everton
Everton FC has made changes to the design of its new stadium at Bramley Moore Dock

Liverpool business leader Frank McKenna has renewed his call for the city to hand back its World Heritage Status following news it was holding up Everton’s new £500m stadium.
On Wednesday, Everton FC told fans there would be a further 28-day public consultation on the project at Bramley Moore Dock after objections from the heritage lobby forced changes to the design.
Although the stadium will be built in Liverpool Waters, which is outside of the WHS zone, it would be in a so-called buffer zone. Among the changes made to the design are a lowering of the overall height of the structure.
Last year the chief executive of business lobby and membership group Downtown in Business, Frank McKenna, claimed the WHS status was a “vanity badge” and that it should be handed back to UNESCO which he called a “faceless, unaccountable body”.
UNESCO has threatened to withdraw WHS several times over the past few years over concerns that new developments, in particular Peel’s Liverpool Waters, would have a detrimental impact on Liverpool’s world-famous waterfront.
Now Mr McKenna is repeating his calls for the WHS badge to be handed back. He said:” “Even a pandemic and the huge economic impact it will have on Liverpool does not register with these people who want to put Liverpool in aspic. They are still content to delay or even stop a major, job creating, regeneration scheme.
“I can’t be the only one who is fed up with the city having to constantly go cap in hand to this faceless, unaccountable body, amending plans, stymying regeneration and pausing progress in order to retain a title that is worth little or nothing in economic, tourism or cultural terms.
“Can the ordinary Liverpudlian understand how an abandoned, derelict part of the city can be considered a ‘heritage site’ that needs to be protected?
photo-04-06-2019-14-23-00-e1561721144578.jpg
Frank McKenna, chief executive of Downtown in Business. Picture by Tony McDonough

“And, at this moment in time particularly, do we want to be sending a signal to international investors that, as well as all the usual planning rules and regulations they have to face to get development plans approved, here in Liverpool there are additional hoops that they have to jump through?
“Whereas Everton FC have no option but to build and invest in the city, global investors can take their money anywhere. Why would they choose Liverpool if they know they will have to add into their timings and costs the almost inevitable obstructions from the heritage lobby for any potential development?”
Mr McKenna also said that he fully accepted the importance of ensuring new buildings should meet a quality threshold, but added: “The power and influence that the heritage lobby has in the city is unhealthy.
“The madness of heritage being used to object to Everton’s iconic scheme can only be fully appreciated if you recognise that the site for the development has been derelict wasteland for decades
“ It is time to tell UNESCO to take back their vanity badge and give Liverpool have the best possible chance of bouncing back from a crisis that has already seen a huge increase in jobless figures in the city region.”
Bang on the money that.
I love this city and I'm immensely proud of our heritage and how much of that we owe to the docks but we, as a city, can't sit on our hands while geeks in grubby macs tut tut about miles of what is essentially a wasteland being developed for the benefit of the region as a whole.

Tell them to koff
 
CEO of Downtown in Business Frank McKenna is furious heritage concerns are holding up Everton’s new £500m stadium and says World Heritage Status is more trouble than it’s worth. Tony McDonough reports
Everton
Everton FC has made changes to the design of its new stadium at Bramley Moore Dock

Liverpool business leader Frank McKenna has renewed his call for the city to hand back its World Heritage Status following news it was holding up Everton’s new £500m stadium.
On Wednesday, Everton FC told fans there would be a further 28-day public consultation on the project at Bramley Moore Dock after objections from the heritage lobby forced changes to the design.
Although the stadium will be built in Liverpool Waters, which is outside of the WHS zone, it would be in a so-called buffer zone. Among the changes made to the design are a lowering of the overall height of the structure.
Last year the chief executive of business lobby and membership group Downtown in Business, Frank McKenna, claimed the WHS status was a “vanity badge” and that it should be handed back to UNESCO which he called a “faceless, unaccountable body”.
UNESCO has threatened to withdraw WHS several times over the past few years over concerns that new developments, in particular Peel’s Liverpool Waters, would have a detrimental impact on Liverpool’s world-famous waterfront.
Now Mr McKenna is repeating his calls for the WHS badge to be handed back. He said:” “Even a pandemic and the huge economic impact it will have on Liverpool does not register with these people who want to put Liverpool in aspic. They are still content to delay or even stop a major, job creating, regeneration scheme.
“I can’t be the only one who is fed up with the city having to constantly go cap in hand to this faceless, unaccountable body, amending plans, stymying regeneration and pausing progress in order to retain a title that is worth little or nothing in economic, tourism or cultural terms.
“Can the ordinary Liverpudlian understand how an abandoned, derelict part of the city can be considered a ‘heritage site’ that needs to be protected?
photo-04-06-2019-14-23-00-e1561721144578.jpg
Frank McKenna, chief executive of Downtown in Business. Picture by Tony McDonough

“And, at this moment in time particularly, do we want to be sending a signal to international investors that, as well as all the usual planning rules and regulations they have to face to get development plans approved, here in Liverpool there are additional hoops that they have to jump through?
“Whereas Everton FC have no option but to build and invest in the city, global investors can take their money anywhere. Why would they choose Liverpool if they know they will have to add into their timings and costs the almost inevitable obstructions from the heritage lobby for any potential development?”
Mr McKenna also said that he fully accepted the importance of ensuring new buildings should meet a quality threshold, but added: “The power and influence that the heritage lobby has in the city is unhealthy.
“The madness of heritage being used to object to Everton’s iconic scheme can only be fully appreciated if you recognise that the site for the development has been derelict wasteland for decades
“ It is time to tell UNESCO to take back their vanity badge and give Liverpool have the best possible chance of bouncing back from a crisis that has already seen a huge increase in jobless figures in the city region.”

He’s absolutely right, imagine what other investments will be put off if we can’t even build a world class football stadium next to an effin sewage plant on a derelict area.
 
CEO of Downtown in Business Frank McKenna is furious heritage concerns are holding up Everton’s new £500m stadium and says World Heritage Status is more trouble than it’s worth. Tony McDonough reports
Everton
Everton FC has made changes to the design of its new stadium at Bramley Moore Dock

Liverpool business leader Frank McKenna has renewed his call for the city to hand back its World Heritage Status following news it was holding up Everton’s new £500m stadium.
On Wednesday, Everton FC told fans there would be a further 28-day public consultation on the project at Bramley Moore Dock after objections from the heritage lobby forced changes to the design.
Although the stadium will be built in Liverpool Waters, which is outside of the WHS zone, it would be in a so-called buffer zone. Among the changes made to the design are a lowering of the overall height of the structure.
Last year the chief executive of business lobby and membership group Downtown in Business, Frank McKenna, claimed the WHS status was a “vanity badge” and that it should be handed back to UNESCO which he called a “faceless, unaccountable body”.
UNESCO has threatened to withdraw WHS several times over the past few years over concerns that new developments, in particular Peel’s Liverpool Waters, would have a detrimental impact on Liverpool’s world-famous waterfront.
Now Mr McKenna is repeating his calls for the WHS badge to be handed back. He said:” “Even a pandemic and the huge economic impact it will have on Liverpool does not register with these people who want to put Liverpool in aspic. They are still content to delay or even stop a major, job creating, regeneration scheme.
“I can’t be the only one who is fed up with the city having to constantly go cap in hand to this faceless, unaccountable body, amending plans, stymying regeneration and pausing progress in order to retain a title that is worth little or nothing in economic, tourism or cultural terms.
“Can the ordinary Liverpudlian understand how an abandoned, derelict part of the city can be considered a ‘heritage site’ that needs to be protected?
photo-04-06-2019-14-23-00-e1561721144578.jpg
Frank McKenna, chief executive of Downtown in Business. Picture by Tony McDonough

“And, at this moment in time particularly, do we want to be sending a signal to international investors that, as well as all the usual planning rules and regulations they have to face to get development plans approved, here in Liverpool there are additional hoops that they have to jump through?
“Whereas Everton FC have no option but to build and invest in the city, global investors can take their money anywhere. Why would they choose Liverpool if they know they will have to add into their timings and costs the almost inevitable obstructions from the heritage lobby for any potential development?”
Mr McKenna also said that he fully accepted the importance of ensuring new buildings should meet a quality threshold, but added: “The power and influence that the heritage lobby has in the city is unhealthy.
“The madness of heritage being used to object to Everton’s iconic scheme can only be fully appreciated if you recognise that the site for the development has been derelict wasteland for decades
“ It is time to tell UNESCO to take back their vanity badge and give Liverpool have the best possible chance of bouncing back from a crisis that has already seen a huge increase in jobless figures in the city region.”
He’s hit the nail on the head there. Why haven’t Liverpool City Council come out backing the club on this?

Tell UNESCO to shove the WHS status up their arse.

I find it disgraceful that we’ve bent over backwards to accommodate them and English Heritage, wasting months/years in dialogue with them, only for the to want our plans to be be scuppered.
 

CEO of Downtown in Business Frank McKenna is furious heritage concerns are holding up Everton’s new £500m stadium and says World Heritage Status is more trouble than it’s worth. Tony McDonough reports
Everton
Everton FC has made changes to the design of its new stadium at Bramley Moore Dock

Liverpool business leader Frank McKenna has renewed his call for the city to hand back its World Heritage Status following news it was holding up Everton’s new £500m stadium.
On Wednesday, Everton FC told fans there would be a further 28-day public consultation on the project at Bramley Moore Dock after objections from the heritage lobby forced changes to the design.
Although the stadium will be built in Liverpool Waters, which is outside of the WHS zone, it would be in a so-called buffer zone. Among the changes made to the design are a lowering of the overall height of the structure.
Last year the chief executive of business lobby and membership group Downtown in Business, Frank McKenna, claimed the WHS status was a “vanity badge” and that it should be handed back to UNESCO which he called a “faceless, unaccountable body”.
UNESCO has threatened to withdraw WHS several times over the past few years over concerns that new developments, in particular Peel’s Liverpool Waters, would have a detrimental impact on Liverpool’s world-famous waterfront.
Now Mr McKenna is repeating his calls for the WHS badge to be handed back. He said:” “Even a pandemic and the huge economic impact it will have on Liverpool does not register with these people who want to put Liverpool in aspic. They are still content to delay or even stop a major, job creating, regeneration scheme.
“I can’t be the only one who is fed up with the city having to constantly go cap in hand to this faceless, unaccountable body, amending plans, stymying regeneration and pausing progress in order to retain a title that is worth little or nothing in economic, tourism or cultural terms.
“Can the ordinary Liverpudlian understand how an abandoned, derelict part of the city can be considered a ‘heritage site’ that needs to be protected?
photo-04-06-2019-14-23-00-e1561721144578.jpg
Frank McKenna, chief executive of Downtown in Business. Picture by Tony McDonough

“And, at this moment in time particularly, do we want to be sending a signal to international investors that, as well as all the usual planning rules and regulations they have to face to get development plans approved, here in Liverpool there are additional hoops that they have to jump through?
“Whereas Everton FC have no option but to build and invest in the city, global investors can take their money anywhere. Why would they choose Liverpool if they know they will have to add into their timings and costs the almost inevitable obstructions from the heritage lobby for any potential development?”
Mr McKenna also said that he fully accepted the importance of ensuring new buildings should meet a quality threshold, but added: “The power and influence that the heritage lobby has in the city is unhealthy.
“The madness of heritage being used to object to Everton’s iconic scheme can only be fully appreciated if you recognise that the site for the development has been derelict wasteland for decades
“ It is time to tell UNESCO to take back their vanity badge and give Liverpool have the best possible chance of bouncing back from a crisis that has already seen a huge increase in jobless figures in the city region.”
"Mr McKenna also said that he fully accepted the importance of ensuring new buildings should meet a quality threshold"

Lol.

He was the one of the balloons giving his blessing to a Barr constructed shed in Kirkby just to get Everton out and up into Knowsley.
 
Over 3 years ago....




"Dave, you're just a pessimist / WUM / divvy...blah, blah, blah"
 
Over 3 years ago....




"Dave, you're just a pessimist / WUM / divvy...blah, blah, blah"

in fairness @nsno-chris answered you clearly on that post 3yrs ago and I’d imagine his answer would be the same now
 
in fairness @nsno-chris answered you clearly on that post 3yrs ago and I’d imagine his answer would be the same now
We'll see how quick it is to send this objection packing. If it's called in it's game over IMO. A brave face might be put on any such decision at the time, but we'll see this kicked into the long grass if it is passed further up the chain.
 
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