New Everton Stadium

[roydo]

Or...
Would that civil servant see a proposal with private investment, public consultation, project partners external to the council and see it as a no brainer, quick win to approve to be the Tory party who enabled the stadium to press ahead and then look at decisions which the council are actually significantly involved in?

Lets hope so.

 

[nsno-chris]

Agree. Not THAT controversial. Great consultations etc etc. But we look at it as EFC fans.

A faceless civil servant wont. He is being asked to run LCC in the face of corruption allegations. So he is going to try to find some. Where would you look?

the issues are lot wider than the stadium; it’s to do with “friends of friends” getting preferential treatment for various jobs and certain departments being “forced” to use certain contractors going outside of our own procurement rules

a prime example being a construction firm, well known in Liverpool being given all the major jobs around the city at inflated quote, yet not completing those jobs to the standard required

or certain property developers having almost every deal green-lit despite concerns over completion due to lack of funds.

Liverpool has the largest amount of incomplete developments in the country. At one time there were 26 huge projects that were abandoned leaving half developed sites. Developers were rinsing unsuspecting investors for “off plan” money before shutting down due to lack of funds.

Elliot Group, Lawrence Kenwright and a load of others are about to have their cash cow ripped from right under them. I hope the lot of them go to nick

The deal with EFC is far too big, we and Peel are not some tinpot local developer who wants to make a quick buck. This is a serious peace of business which is going to change the face of massively overlooked and derelict area of the city; second to that it also forms part of Peel L&P 50 year Liverpool Waters master plan.

 

[roydo]

the issues are lot wider than the stadium; it’s to do with “friends of friends” getting preferential treatment for various jobs and certain departments being “forced” to use certain contractors going outside of our own procurement rules

a prime example being a construction firm, well known in Liverpool being given all the major jobs around the city at inflated quote, yet not completing those jobs to the standard required

or certain property developers having almost every deal green-lit despite concerns over completion due to lack of funds.

Liverpool has the largest amount of incomplete developments in the country. At one time there were 26 huge projects that were abandoned leaving half developed sites. Developers were rinsing unsuspecting investors for “off plan” money before shutting down due to lack of funds.

Elliot Group, Lawrence Kenwright and a load of others are about to have their cash cow ripped from right under them. I hope the lot of them go to nick

The deal with EFC is far too big, we and Peel are not some tinpot local developer who wants to make a quick buck. This is a serious peace of business which is going to change the face of massively overlooked and derelict area of the city; second to that it also forms part of Peel L&P 50 year Liverpool Waters master plan.

Happy to bow to your local knowledge.

Reading these last few pages has been instructive as to the alleged sort of lower level corruption that seems to be the actual concern.

Phew.

 

[nsno-chris]

Happy to bow to your local knowledge.

Reading these last few pages has been instructive as to the alleged sort of lower level corruption that seems to be the actual concern.

Phew.

It’s absolutely disgusting what’s gone on this council for the last 15 years; from David Henshaw and the BT fiasco to Ged Fitzgerald and Rotherham child abuse scandal all the way through to this

Systematic bullying and power runs rife through the council. If you were in the circle you were fine, tried to challenge the top boys and your were done for

 

[jinkyali]

the issues are lot wider than the stadium; it’s to do with “friends of friends” getting preferential treatment for various jobs and certain departments being “forced” to use certain contractors going outside of our own procurement rules

a prime example being a construction firm, well known in Liverpool being given all the major jobs around the city at inflated quote, yet not completing those jobs to the standard required

or certain property developers having almost every deal green-lit despite concerns over completion due to lack of funds.

Liverpool has the largest amount of incomplete developments in the country. At one time there were 26 huge projects that were abandoned leaving half developed sites. Developers were rinsing unsuspecting investors for “off plan” money before shutting down due to lack of funds.

Elliot Group, Lawrence Kenwright and a load of others are about to have their cash cow ripped from right under them. I hope the lot of them go to nick

The deal with EFC is far too big, we and Peel are not some tinpot local developer who wants to make a quick buck. This is a serious peace of business which is going to change the face of massively overlooked and derelict area of the city; second to that it also forms part of Peel L&P 50 year Liverpool Waters master plan.

The group behind the shankly Hotel have done the same in Preston.

 

[nsno-chris]

The group behind the shankly Hotel have done the same in Preston.

Lawrence Kenwright and his signature living group; show pony and utterly despicable nobhead

Received lots favourable handouts from the council, including certain buildings

 

[davek]

This looks like a project getting kicked into the long grass.

 

[arch stanton]

I don't see why we would have had to bribe anyone and there are bound to be a lot of rumours due to our unlovable neighbours making up stuff.

I wouldn't doubt that some of them have set up an account on GoT too.

 

[blulouie]

the issues are lot wider than the stadium; it’s to do with “friends of friends” getting preferential treatment for various jobs and certain departments being “forced” to use certain contractors going outside of our own procurement rules

a prime example being a construction firm, well known in Liverpool being given all the major jobs around the city at inflated quote, yet not completing those jobs to the standard required

or certain property developers having almost every deal green-lit despite concerns over completion due to lack of funds.

Liverpool has the largest amount of incomplete developments in the country. At one time there were 26 huge projects that were abandoned leaving half developed sites. Developers were rinsing unsuspecting investors for “off plan” money before shutting down due to lack of funds.

Elliot Group, Lawrence Kenwright and a load of others are about to have their cash cow ripped from right under them. I hope the lot of them go to nick

The deal with EFC is far too big, we and Peel are not some tinpot local developer who wants to make a quick buck. This is a serious peace of business which is going to change the face of massively overlooked and derelict area of the city; second to that it also forms part of Peel L&P 50 year Liverpool Waters master plan.

Pretty good insight that.

Ive always thought the rumblings of wrongdoing will always come out in the end & rightly so.

The part that concerns me is if the government take over the running of the council would the LCC planning dept still be functional and the BMD & Goodison legacy projects that where granted unanimous permission still be creditable & honoured.

Jenrick is the minister behind these investigations and possible Council takeover , it just so happens BMD is sitting on his desk awaiting approval.
Quite concerning tbh.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

This looks like a project getting kicked into the long grass.

Dave's back on it lol

 

[Stan Lee Park]

the issues are lot wider than the stadium; it’s to do with “friends of friends” getting preferential treatment for various jobs and certain departments being “forced” to use certain contractors going outside of our own procurement rules

a prime example being a construction firm, well known in Liverpool being given all the major jobs around the city at inflated quote, yet not completing those jobs to the standard required

or certain property developers having almost every deal green-lit despite concerns over completion due to lack of funds.

Liverpool has the largest amount of incomplete developments in the country. At one time there were 26 huge projects that were abandoned leaving half developed sites. Developers were rinsing unsuspecting investors for “off plan” money before shutting down due to lack of funds.

Elliot Group, Lawrence Kenwright and a load of others are about to have their cash cow ripped from right under them. I hope the lot of them go to nick

The deal with EFC is far too big, we and Peel are not some tinpot local developer who wants to make a quick buck. This is a serious peace of business which is going to change the face of massively overlooked and derelict area of the city; second to that it also forms part of Peel L&P 50 year Liverpool Waters master plan.

The developers you name have certainly been the high profile villains - although neither of them have been prosecuted on any grounds. Neither of these characters are anywhere near the project However, a large number of current councillors and officers will have been involved in the BMD project which must bring it into doubt and it is a possible explanation for the statement from "Honest Bob" Jenrick that he needed more time to consider it.
I have to agree with Roydo on this - it can't be good news.

 

[davek]

Dave's back on it lol

It has stalled. No question.

 

[nsno-chris]

The developers you name have certainly been the high profile villains - although neither of them have been prosecuted on any grounds. Neither of these characters are anywhere near the project However, a large number of current councillors and officers will have been involved in the BMD project which must bring it into doubt and it is a possible explanation for the statement from "Honest Bob" Jenrick that he needed more time to consider it.
I have to agree with Roydo on this - it can't be good news.

what?? The investigation proceeds the development, has pointed out previously this was instigated by the CEX of the council.

The government auditor has been LCC for the last 6 months, looking into irregularities in highways (Liverpool construction company) planning (nasty Nick and his back handers). Kenwright and Elliot have no involvement in BMD.

 

[nsno-chris]

Pretty good insight that.

Ive always thought the rumblings of wrongdoing will always come out in the end & rightly so.

The part that concerns me is if the government take over the running of the council would the LCC planning dept still be functional and the BMD & Goodison legacy projects that where granted unanimous permission still be creditable & honoured.

Jenrick is the minister behind these investigations and possible Council takeover , it just so happens BMD is sitting on his desk awaiting approval.
Quite concerning tbh.

Jenrick is involved because of his ministerial position, his department has control over both issues.

Ask yourself this, why would Everton football club, after spending millions, openly submit planning applications during the midst of a government audit if they were aware of irregularities in the process

 

[Stan Lee Park]

what?? The investigation proceeds the development, has pointed out previously this was instigated by the CEX of the council.

The government auditor has been LCC for the last 6 months, looking into irregularities in highways (Liverpool construction company) planning (nasty Nick and his back handers). Kenwright and Elliot have no involvement in BMD.

I thought that was what I said?