New Everton Stadium

[roydo]

Don’t think it was personal to him. Laing wanted their own architect overseeing the project during construction if I remember correctly.

Its normal. The creative one comes up with the design, the contractors then use a bloke who knows what a 4 by 2 is.

 

[PITA]

Lads I don’t get this.

I was just agreeing that he's not a great runner.

 

[Davideeyore]

Lads I don’t get this.

Time it would take someone to walk from town say Lime Street. To BMD. Another can of worms ha.

 

[bazza86]

Exactly that. The People who started the Architecture firm they hired, worked with LoR as the architects on City's ground, during both stages.

Its just a process within construction. Sometimes you get notated, sometimes not. LoR have effectively become the client now, not Everton. The site belongs to LoR, meaning they call the shots. Everton will then hire a consultant to ensure that LoR stick to the brief and deliver a solution that is befitting the design and expectation. That's know as the TA role. Meis bid for both, but never got either.

Its just a process within construction. Sometimes you get novated

 

[RobSpurs]

Liverpool were going to bid for the CWG, just not that particular one. They were thinking about 2030+. What happened was, Durban got into trouble and it was pulled off them. Liverpool threw their hat in the ring, as did Birmingham. Had it been awarded to either it wouldn't be awarded to a UK City again for quite some time, so LCC had to offer something that other UK cities couldn't, and that was a games surrounding the Docks. Of course, Everton building there offered a great opportunity to sell further on it. There had been talk of them building a floating athletics track on Nelson next door. This led to some mistaking that for Everton extending onto Nelson docks also. BMD would have been the centrepiece for opening and closing, but couldn't have hosted the track and field events.

This is wrong. The plan was to do something very similar to what Man City did. In fact, the original plan for this is outlined in planning documents for the new stadium

In the Spring of 2017, with the support of Liverpool City Council, Bramley-Moore Dock was identified as a potential site for the athletics venue of the 2022 Commonwealth Games bid. As a result, Everton commissioned a feasibility study for phasing a stadium construction that could accommodate an athletics mode for the games. The stadium, built on an east-to-west orientation, would have held 40,000 spectators in athletics mode and finally 60,000 as a completed football stadium.

Once the CWG bid was dead, the plan was reorientated North-South, which is the orientation football stadiums are normally built with (for reasons to do with the sun, broadcasting etc). This is a bit more of a tight fit, so capacity ended up being constrained.

 

[peteblue]

Out of interest, why would you expect us to have a bigger stadium than Spurs?
They have a bigger worldwide fan base than us and are much better positioned geographically to fill their stadium.

No point building a stadium too big that we wouldn't fill.

Would that be the same Spurs who have only won two titles, one 60 years ago and one 70 years ago ?.....asking for a fan who couldn’t give a crap about Spurs.....or even Newcastle who won it 95 years ago....

 

[RobSpurs]

This is wrong. The plan was to do something very similar to what Man City did. In fact, the original plan for this is outlined in planning documents for the new stadium

In the Spring of 2017, with the support of Liverpool City Council, Bramley-Moore Dock was identified as a potential site for the athletics venue of the 2022 Commonwealth Games bid. As a result, Everton commissioned a feasibility study for phasing a stadium construction that could accommodate an athletics mode for the games. The stadium, built on an east-to-west orientation, would have held 40,000 spectators in athletics mode and finally 60,000 as a completed football stadium.

Once the CWG bid was dead, the plan was reorientated North-South, which is the orientation football stadiums are normally built with (for reasons to do with the sun, broadcasting etc). This is a bit more of a tight fit, so capacity ended up being constrained.

BMD for Liverpool 2022:

LIVERPOOL - New Everton Stadium (52,888)

www.skyscrapercity.com

 

[PhilM]

Lads I don’t get this.

The first poster said he's not the best runner because on average it takes him a mighty 15 minutes to run a mile.

I think @PITA is agreeing that he isn't a great runner because most people can walk a mile in just over fifteen minutes.

 

[Davideeyore]

Once the CWG bid was dead, the plan was reorientated North-South, which is the orientation football stadiums are normally built with (for reasons to do with the sun, broadcasting etc). This is a bit more of a tight fit, so capacity ended up being constrained.

No this isn't correct. The original plans we were provided (exactly 3 years ago) by Meis were for a footprint of 60,000 whether east west or north south. The Buro Hapold 'leaks' showed this too.

 

[RobSpurs]

Ah yes, you're right. But I'm sure the 60k N-S was a problem for some reason which is why it was reduced. Perhaps it was doable but with compromises in other areas? I can't remember tbh.

 

[4737carlin]

Would that be the same Spurs who have only won two titles, one 60 years ago and one 70 years ago ?.....asking for a fan who couldn’t give a crap about Spurs.....or even Newcastle who won it 95 years ago....

Mate we havent won anything for 26 years, if there is one thing we cant talk about its others teams trophy cabinet's

 

[Sainsbur McManus]

When I went to the Meis thing at the titanic it took me 35 minutes to walk home to the top of duke street and that included going into a shop to get a drink

 

[Toffefc]

Do you think they will include the EFC, Everton & 1878 back on each stand. They are missing from the revised plans.

 

[Brisan123]

That was the theory we stumbled on a while back. So far, so good, but struggle to see how the folk we reckoned would make a killing are going to do so, looking at those links.

We don’t know who owns the money behind the developers
The liver building was not bought on a whim , there was a reason behind it
Moshiri and Usmanov have plans for parts of the dock that go beyond the stadium , of that I’m sure

 

[Brisan123]

Indeed. The whole real time line should be traced back to Ussie losing the battle at Arsenal. He didnt release his mate from that share holding for funsies.

Like you say, pretty much everything else since then has been to get to BMD. Them Yanks? Eyewash. WHP? Eyewash.

We should send Kronke a thank you card