New Everton Stadium

[MichaelEFC96]

Looks like the warehouse has been completely demolished now

 

[nsno-chris]

Is this where the visitors centre will be?

Yeah I’m sure that where they said it’s be. It’s make sense because it’s at the entrance to the dock; the footfall will be fantastic and if they do a stellar job it’ll drive non football fans down there to gain more understanding of the history of the city and the part it played

 

[degsy]

Old link i know but ive only just seen this, really good move. Also i seen some pics of an old WW2 air raid siren down there last month, does anyone know if its gong to be left there?

https://www.[Publication is blackli...3ca5p1QZ8xL-EdtI3CAcNOk54RumqvZGDNRuhvze8G65A

BMD built 1848... so why in light of this below.

British merchants were a significant force behind the Atlantic slave trade between the sixteenth and nineteenth centuries,[1] but no legislation was ever passed in England that legalised slavery. In the Somerset case of 1772, Lord Mansfield ruled that, as slavery was not recognised by English law, James Somerset, a slave who had been brought to England and then escaped, could not be forcibly sent to Jamaica for sale, and he was set free.

The abolitionist movement grew in the 18th century, until the Slave Trade Act 1807 abolished the slave trade in the British Empire, but it was not until the Slavery Abolition Act 1833 that the institution of slavery was abolished

Edit; Mr Bramley Moore arrived in Liverpool in 1835

 

[royalblue66]

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Kopites spring to mind mate

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Kopites spring to mind mate

Well apart from the occasional racist supporting t shirt they do have a remarkable PR department that sees them bounce from atrocity to atrocity with a clap on the back from the media.

Like I said I wasn't arguing anything to do with the morals of it, it would be a smart move by the club to acknowledge the history of the place they are building the new stadium.

 

[Bedfordblue]

No but if they put it in in BMD and make provision for a ratio greater than 1:1 than it will increase the capacity of the ground

Believe the concourses etc have been planned on a greater than 1:1 ratio already, exact figures escape me but safe standing and the associated potential capacity increase was always designed in iirc.

 

[allen]

BMD built 1848... so why in light of this below.

British merchants were a significant force behind the Atlantic slave trade between the sixteenth and nineteenth centuries,[1] but no legislation was ever passed in England that legalised slavery. In the Somerset case of 1772, Lord Mansfield ruled that, as slavery was not recognised by English law, James Somerset, a slave who had been brought to England and then escaped, could not be forcibly sent to Jamaica for sale, and he was set free.

The abolitionist movement grew in the 18th century, until the Slave Trade Act 1807 abolished the slave trade in the British Empire, but it was not until the Slavery Abolition Act 1833 that the institution of slavery was abolished

Edit; Mr Bramley Moore arrived in Liverpool in 1835

John Bramley-Moore was a slaver. That's reason enough to acknowledge the slave trade in a dock that bears his name.

 

[Bedfordblue]

BMD built 1848... so why in light of this below.

British merchants were a significant force behind the Atlantic slave trade between the sixteenth and nineteenth centuries,[1] but no legislation was ever passed in England that legalised slavery. In the Somerset case of 1772, Lord Mansfield ruled that, as slavery was not recognised by English law, James Somerset, a slave who had been brought to England and then escaped, could not be forcibly sent to Jamaica for sale, and he was set free.

The abolitionist movement grew in the 18th century, until the Slave Trade Act 1807 abolished the slave trade in the British Empire, but it was not until the Slavery Abolition Act 1833 that the institution of slavery was abolished

Edit; Mr Bramley Moore arrived in Liverpool in 1835

The Bramley Moore’s (and others) continued to reap the rewards of the slave trade long after its UK abolition.

Everton's new Bramley-Moore stadium is a stark reminder of Liverpool's historic entanglement with slavery in Brazil | LSE Latin America and Caribbean

Despite opposition from heritage groups, Everton Football Club's planned move to a new £500-million stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock has this week been given the green light by planning officials. The grade-II listed site is rightly regarded as an important example of Liverpool's rich maritime...

blogs.lse.ac.uk

 

[davek]

Yeah I’m sure that where they said it’s be. It’s make sense because it’s at the entrance to the dock; the footfall will be fantastic and if they do a stellar job it’ll drive non football fans down there to gain more understanding of the history of the city and the part it played

Sounds brilliant, tbf.

 

[kev]

BMD built 1848... so why in light of this below.

British merchants were a significant force behind the Atlantic slave trade between the sixteenth and nineteenth centuries,[1] but no legislation was ever passed in England that legalised slavery. In the Somerset case of 1772, Lord Mansfield ruled that, as slavery was not recognised by English law, James Somerset, a slave who had been brought to England and then escaped, could not be forcibly sent to Jamaica for sale, and he was set free.

The abolitionist movement grew in the 18th century, until the Slave Trade Act 1807 abolished the slave trade in the British Empire, but it was not until the Slavery Abolition Act 1833 that the institution of slavery was abolished

Edit; Mr Bramley Moore arrived in Liverpool in 1835

Everton's new Bramley-Moore stadium is a stark reminder of Liverpool's historic entanglement with slavery in Brazil | LSE Latin America and Caribbean

Despite opposition from heritage groups, Everton Football Club's planned move to a new £500-million stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock has this week been given the green light by planning officials. The grade-II listed site is rightly regarded as an important example of Liverpool's rich maritime...

blogs.lse.ac.uk

"Given Liverpool’s past status as the epicentre of the British slave trade, much recent historical reckoning has quite justifiably focused on the city’s connections to that traffic until its abolition in 1807 and to slavery in Britain’s Caribbean colonies until 1833. There has also been wide recognition of Liverpool’s links to slavery in the United States and the city’s broad support for the Confederacy during the American Civil War (1861-1865). Less well recognised, however, are Liverpool’s deep connections to Brazil, where the illegal slave trade raged on until 1850 and slavery persisted until 1888. At the very centre of this problematic history was John Bramley-Moore, the Liverpool merchant-cum-politician who gave his name to the dock where Everton plan to build their new home."

 

[Tom Hughes]

The Bramley Moore’s (and others) continued to reap the rewards of the slave trade long after its UK abolition.

Everton's new Bramley-Moore stadium is a stark reminder of Liverpool's historic entanglement with slavery in Brazil | LSE Latin America and Caribbean

Despite opposition from heritage groups, Everton Football Club's planned move to a new £500-million stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock has this week been given the green light by planning officials. The grade-II listed site is rightly regarded as an important example of Liverpool's rich maritime...

blogs.lse.ac.uk

It's true that many already very wealthy slave owners/traders became ridiculously rich after abolition. Many of the city's great civic buildings are testament to that wealth. They were paid off by the taxpayer and continued to reap the benefits for decades later. That cost to the taxpayer was only paid back quite recently...... so it is all still pretty current in some ways.

 

[davek]

In reference to the recent posts in here: first game at the new stadium:

Everton v Brazil.

Failing that: Everton v the recognized top Brazillian club team at that point.

What a statement.

 

[degsy]

Everton's new Bramley-Moore stadium is a stark reminder of Liverpool's historic entanglement with slavery in Brazil | LSE Latin America and Caribbean

Despite opposition from heritage groups, Everton Football Club's planned move to a new £500-million stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock has this week been given the green light by planning officials. The grade-II listed site is rightly regarded as an important example of Liverpool's rich maritime...

blogs.lse.ac.uk

"Given Liverpool’s past status as the epicentre of the British slave trade, much recent historical reckoning has quite justifiably focused on the city’s connections to that traffic until its abolition in 1807 and to slavery in Britain’s Caribbean colonies until 1833. There has also been wide recognition of Liverpool’s links to slavery in the United States and the city’s broad support for the Confederacy during the American Civil War (1861-1865). Less well recognised, however, are Liverpool’s deep connections to Brazil, where the illegal slave trade raged on until 1850 and slavery persisted until 1888. At the very centre of this problematic history was John Bramley-Moore, the Liverpool merchant-cum-politician who gave his name to the dock where Everton plan to build their new home."

I realise we have to be on top of all forms of racism...and be seen to seen to be on top of all forms of racism.
What are the Club doing in relation to this matter?

 

[toffee-boy]

Does anyone know which stands they plan to put safe standing in BMD?

 

[Baldynut]

Does anyone know which stands they plan to put safe standing in BMD?

North and south stands