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New Everton Stadium

The very location of BMD on the river is a huge selling point. Imagine a multinational company's name in 30 foot letters being on every photo and image of the river front. Imagine the same letters lit up of a night. Iconic is a word often overused. Not in this case.
But it won't be on every photo of the river front. River front photos will be exactly as they are now of the 3 graces, the stadium is a mile along the river from there. I'm sure there will be plenty of pictures of the stadium in its own right, but any sponsor won't suddenly become the sponsor of the entire waterfront. Spurs can't get a sponsor for their stadium and it's likely to be home of an NFL team as well as a PL team. If it was going to be so easy to get a major corporation to sponsor the ground, Moshiri wouldn't have been looking for his mates money.
 
But it won't be on every photo of the river front. River front photos will be exactly as they are now of the 3 graces, the stadium is a mile along the river from there. I'm sure there will be plenty of pictures of the stadium in its own right, but any sponsor won't suddenly become the sponsor of the entire waterfront. Spurs can't get a sponsor for their stadium and it's likely to be home of an NFL team as well as a PL team. If it was going to be so easy to get a major corporation to sponsor the ground, Moshiri wouldn't have been looking for his mates money.

Many will take pictures from the beach in wirral and the skyline will be there. There's more than one angle to take a picture. The beach, rocks included as a point of interest, shipping etc, it'll look fantastic and will be a major focal point on the skyline.
 

Many will take pictures from the beach in wirral and the skyline will be there. There's more than one angle to take a picture. The beach, rocks included as a point of interest, shipping etc, it'll look fantastic and will be a major focal point on the skyline.

I don't see how that helps a sponsor. Nobody is arguing it won't be a great stadium in a great location. But it doesn't mean if you're a prospective multi national sponsor, that sticking your name on the roof of BMD means you effectively get your name across every picture of the water front. It just won't and I don't think is as appealing as is being discussed. In fact I'd go as far as to say I don't think stadium sponsorship in the UK has been particularly successful anywhere. About the best is Emirates at arsenal and that is tied in to their shirt sponsor (which the club are currently scrambling for one) - and was done at a time when sides like Spurs and WHU who have new grounds which don't carry sponsor. And certainly in spurs case is not because they don't want one. They're desperate for one.
 
I don't see how that helps a sponsor. Nobody is arguing it won't be a great stadium in a great location. But it doesn't mean if you're a prospective multi national sponsor, that sticking your name on the roof of BMD means you effectively get your name across every picture of the water front. It just won't and I don't think is as appealing as is being discussed. In fact I'd go as far as to say I don't think stadium sponsorship in the UK has been particularly successful anywhere. About the best is Emirates at arsenal and that is tied in to their shirt sponsor (which the club are currently scrambling for one) - and was done at a time when sides like Spurs and WHU who have new grounds which don't carry sponsor. And certainly in spurs case is not because they don't want one. They're desperate for one.

If it was that simple then blue chip companies would be falling over themselves to buy land along the waterfront/sponsor buildings so they could have their name up in lights.
 
This should never have been priority. The last thing we need if we are relegated is a lot of stadium debt. I couldn't care less about the stadium because winning matches is what matters.

The minute the focus shifted onto the stadium, we lost perspective. No football club will ever be successful when an off the field project is the priority. We should have been settling for staying at GP until such time as we had a competitive team. The board and owner need to explain why they saw a stadium build as priority.
 

This should never have been priority. The last thing we need if we are relegated is a lot of stadium debt. I couldn't care less about the stadium because winning matches is what matters.

The minute the focus shifted onto the stadium, we lost perspective. No football club will ever be successful when an off the field project is the priority. We should have been settling for staying at GP until such time as we had a competitive team. The board and owner need to explain why they saw a stadium build as priority.

It’s a multi year, best part of a decade process though.

When the BMD stadium discussions started we were finishing in the top eight.

Our issues on the football pitch are due to mismanagement specifically of football matters from the owner and board, not because of the stadium. There’s never a good time to undertake such a massive project.
 
It’s a multi year, best part of a decade process though.

When the BMD stadium discussions started we were finishing in the top eight.

Our issues on the football pitch are due to mismanagement specifically of football matters from the owner and board, not because of the stadium. There’s never a good time to undertake such a massive project.

I am very worried about how this effects us if we go down. I'm worried generally about our finances if we go down.

The stadium project has been priority for the board and owner in my opinion. And that is not what football is about. I find it ludicrous they started the build at a time when we had reached our FFP limits and couldn't spend.
 
I am very worried about how this effects us if we go down. I'm worried generally about our finances if we go down.

The stadium project has been priority for the board and owner in my opinion. And that is not what football is about. I find it ludicrous they started the build at a time when we had reached our FFP limits and couldn't spend.

Of course, but as mentioned we finished 7th in the season when BMD was made official. We rightly would have criticised if they had come out then and said it wasn’t happening incase we got relegated.

For years fans have been complaining about our commercial side and in particular the stadium vs our PL rivals.

My understanding was stadium costs aren’t included in FFP calculations?
 
Of course, but as mentioned we finished 7th in the season when BMD was made official. We rightly would have criticised if they had come out then and said it wasn’t happening incase we got relegated.

For years fans have been complaining about our commercial side and in particular the stadium vs our PL rivals.

My understanding was stadium costs aren’t included in FFP calculations?

The costs go towards infrastructure, so I don't think they go under FFP. But they are still real costs, hundreds of millions of pounds and inevitably, lots of debt. Our finances are going to be effected whether or not it's on the FFP record.

And the other big issue people have ignored is that teams who change stadium rarely improve. Losing Goodison is a disaster for us because it's the only thing I still like about the club, and they are taking it away. The money argument doesn't stand up either considering how much they have wasted in a hapless manner.
 
This should never have been priority. The last thing we need if we are relegated is a lot of stadium debt. I couldn't care less about the stadium because winning matches is what matters.

The minute the focus shifted onto the stadium, we lost perspective. No football club will ever be successful when an off the field project is the priority. We should have been settling for staying at GP until such time as we had a competitive team. The board and owner need to explain why they saw a stadium build as priority.
The stadium has had absolutely nothing to do with the situation we are on on the pitch. No footballing decision has been dictated by or impacted negatively by the stadium. Funding for building the team has not been compromised in any way by the stadium. If anything, it has helped attract people we wanted to attract by demonstrating the club's ambition.
 

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