New Everton Stadium

[windymiller]

I'm going to be broken when we move from Goodison. I understand that its necessary for the club to push forward and everything else. I totally get why it'll be a good thing but at the same time, It just won't be the same for me anymore.......

It's a funny one isn't it? I've been on the record on this forum speaking about how, in my opinion, the community aspect of Everton Football Club gets eroded with every new development at the club (I know EiTC are boss before people start in on me, but that increasingly feels detached from the millionaire/billionaire collective running the actual club) but leaving Goodison will be a complete detachment with the past for me. Now, maybe it will be a glorious rebirth, who knows? But my 30 odd years of The Spellow and The Winslow, the terraced streets, the Old Lady under the lights and so on leave me with romantic nostalgia that I am reminded of every time I roll up. Do people get that misty eyed feeling at the Etihad, or the Emirates, or the Olympic stadium, ffs? I know that cash talks and the club needs it, and I also know that without these types of developments the club will go into decline (you could argue it already has) but there is no doubt that a big chunk of our soul is tied to Goodison Park and I worry that with a billionaire owner, a shiny stadium in an industrial part of the city and with fewer and fewer local lads in the team, that we end up as just another corporate "club".

 

[PeregrineT]

He will sell us anyway.
He has been an absentee landlord latterly in any case. Hence Kenwright having the latitude to initiate the recent manager search with a frankly bizarre approach to Martinez.
With the revenue stream from Usmanov permanently severed the ownership model is a bust.
I doubt Moshiri has any appetite in being de facto sole owner and is probably tired of throwing his own money down a black hole.
I think we will have new owners sooner rather than later,

I mostly agree, though I think someone could make a case for him waiting until the Stadium is done. While I think Moshiri could have financed everything and building the club into a driving force, when he squandered all of that money he was counting on being backed by Usmanov. Now that Usmanov is gone and not likely to be back anytime soon, he doesnt have the deep pockets to lose that much anymore, and has already shown he doesnt have the accumen to make a profit. That means he will be looking to sell

 

[sbbefc]

It's a funny one isn't it? I've been on the record on this forum speaking about how, in my opinion, the community aspect of Everton Football Club gets eroded with every new development at the club (I know EiTC are boss before people start in on me, but that increasingly feels detached from the millionaire/billionaire collective running the actual club) but leaving Goodison will be a complete detachment with the past for me. Now, maybe it will be a glorious rebirth, who knows? But my 30 odd years of The Spellow and The Winslow, the terraced streets, the Old Lady under the lights and so on leave me with romantic nostalgia that I am reminded of every time I roll up. Do people get that misty eyed feeling at the Etihad, or the Emirates, or the Olympic stadium, ffs? I know that cash talks and the club needs it, and I also know that without these types of developments the club will go into decline (you could argue it already has) but there is no doubt that a big chunk of our soul is tied to Goodison Park and I worry that with a billionaire owner, a shiny stadium in an industrial part of the city and with fewer and fewer local lads in the team, that we end up as just another corporate "club".

I've not been in Arsenal's ground (I've heard it's soulless) but I've had a wonder around it and imo they've done a pretty good job. It's a stones throw from their old ground and the public open space around it is done well. Still close to older housing and it's original community. They've alwo done a great job of redeveloping Highbury. If we could replicate that I'd be very happy.

Not a fan of Cities ground and the area around it is a bit soulless, I think we'll do better than that though.

Our stadium will be located in the heart of the historic dock system, it'll hopefully be the catalyst for further development and will have great views across the estuary ( and it'll look great from the wirral). The docks are ingrained in the history of Liverpool so I don't see it as a detachment of our history at all. In fact I think it embraces it. I'm really looking forward to it.

 

[Dr Baxter]

…..1920, amazing you go down the area now and many of the towers and walls are still evident. They survived 2 World Wars and plenty of activity since. BMD stadium is state of the art but it’s helping to bring gems of the past back to life;


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Had family who lived in that street in the 19th century, straight off the boat from Dublin. Houses on the right were known as the artisans' dwellings and were built about 1900, I believe. There until the 1950's. Love to know the name of the pub you can just see on the corner. Anybody know?

 

[PKwalnuts]

It's a funny one isn't it? I've been on the record on this forum speaking about how, in my opinion, the community aspect of Everton Football Club gets eroded with every new development at the club (I know EiTC are boss before people start in on me, but that increasingly feels detached from the millionaire/billionaire collective running the actual club) but leaving Goodison will be a complete detachment with the past for me. Now, maybe it will be a glorious rebirth, who knows? But my 30 odd years of The Spellow and The Winslow, the terraced streets, the Old Lady under the lights and so on leave me with romantic nostalgia that I am reminded of every time I roll up. Do people get that misty eyed feeling at the Etihad, or the Emirates, or the Olympic stadium, ffs? I know that cash talks and the club needs it, and I also know that without these types of developments the club will go into decline (you could argue it already has) but there is no doubt that a big chunk of our soul is tied to Goodison Park and I worry that with a billionaire owner, a shiny stadium in an industrial part of the city and with fewer and fewer local lads in the team, that we end up as just another corporate "club".

No for me Goodison is special because of the fans and time spent there.

Move the fans anywhere and spend enough time there, it becomes special again.


Huge opportunity to create something even better on the Front, right in town.


Couldn't be more perfect

 

[Street end man]

It's a funny one isn't it? I've been on the record on this forum speaking about how, in my opinion, the community aspect of Everton Football Club gets eroded with every new development at the club (I know EiTC are boss before people start in on me, but that increasingly feels detached from the millionaire/billionaire collective running the actual club) but leaving Goodison will be a complete detachment with the past for me. Now, maybe it will be a glorious rebirth, who knows? But my 30 odd years of The Spellow and The Winslow, the terraced streets, the Old Lady under the lights and so on leave me with romantic nostalgia that I am reminded of every time I roll up. Do people get that misty eyed feeling at the Etihad, or the Emirates, or the Olympic stadium, ffs? I know that cash talks and the club needs it, and I also know that without these types of developments the club will go into decline (you could argue it already has) but there is no doubt that a big chunk of our soul is tied to Goodison Park and I worry that with a billionaire owner, a shiny stadium in an industrial part of the city and with fewer and fewer local lads in the team, that we end up as just another corporate "club".

My worry too. Apart from the memories of all of us tied up with Goodison I'd feel a bit better if I knew BMD could create the cauldron of intensity Goodison can when it's needed. Such a vital factor for us.

 

[BNJ1878]

I'm sure for the first season or two it will be a bit weird as everyone gets used to it.

I'm also sure by 2030 Goodison won't be missed at all. We should have left 15/20 years ago. (or redeveloped, but honestly.... Waterfront trumps Walton)

 

[MickA]

Had family who lived in that street in the 19th century, straight off the boat from Dublin. Houses on the right were known as the artisans' dwellings and were built about 1900, I believe. There until the 1950's. Love to know the name of the pub you can just see on the corner. Anybody know?

Massive Irish presence there, literally across the road from Clarence Dock. Dunno what that particluar pub is called but all the books I've read suggest they were 'lively'.

 

[terryefc]

Found it funny when the Wolves fan said he could feel Goodison shake when the crowd get going. I can see the atmosphere being close at BMD. There is a saying that you can tell the difference between a ray of sunshine and a scotsman with a grievance. Replace the scotsman with an Everton fan when the players don't look like they are giving their all. There's decades of history that goes with that shirt and those who do not respect it will be soon be called out wherever we are playing.

 

[Eggs]

Had family who lived in that street in the 19th century, straight off the boat from Dublin. Houses on the right were known as the artisans' dwellings and were built about 1900, I believe. There until the 1950's. Love to know the name of the pub you can just see on the corner. Anybody know?

….maybe The Palatine.

 

[Ruairi77]

I've not been in Arsenal's ground (I've heard it's soulless) but I've had a wonder around it and imo they've done a pretty good job. It's a stones throw from their old ground and the public open space around it is done well. Still close to older housing and it's original community. They've alwo done a great job of redeveloping Highbury. If we could replicate that I'd be very happy.

Not a fan of Cities ground and the area around it is a bit soulless, I think we'll do better than that though.

Our stadium will be located in the heart of the historic dock system, it'll hopefully be the catalyst for further development and will have great views across the estuary ( and it'll look great from the wirral). The docks are ingrained in the history of Liverpool so I don't see it as a detachment of our history at all. In fact I think it embraces it. I'm really looking forward to it.

yea, I'm with you on the exterior of Arsenals ground, they've done a good job but my experience inside was fairly stale. Granted the game I was at wasn't great but the angle of the stands is way too shallow. I did like how they reused the Highbury clock. I hope the stands in BMD are much steeper and there are actual elements from goodison brought over (not just design ideas).
I think you'd actually have to work hard to create a bad setting outside the new stadium given its location. Here's hoping they get the inside right.

 

[jonnyboy316]

yea, I'm with you on the exterior of Arsenals ground, they've done a good job but my experience inside was fairly stale. Granted the game I was at wasn't great but the angle of the stands is way too shallow. I did like how they reused the Highbury clock. I hope the stands in BMD are much steeper and there are actual elements from goodison brought over (not just design ideas).
I think you'd actually have to work hard to create a bad setting outside the new stadium given its location. Here's hoping they get the inside right.

BMD will be more intimate than the Emirates. That will be the advantage of the smaller capacity combined with steeper stands

 

[cooperman]

No for me Goodison is special because of the fans and time spent there.

Move the fans anywhere and spend enough time there, it becomes special again.


Huge opportunity to create something even better on the Front, right in town.


Couldn't be more perfect

Wouldn't class it as town exactly... It's a bit of a trek

 

[peteblue]

Up close and personal, managed to get some close ups today with no work going on

Cracking video, but I’m not happy. I can see loads of staircases, but where do the escalators go. I’m not walking all that way up to my Loge seat….ffs sack the board……

 

[peteblue]

Thanks a lot?

Truly mate, you are doing a great job. The sort of job that our bleeding marketing dept should have been doing.….