TheFinnFan
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Anderson is just putting pressure on Mosh with the 3 year deadline...hope he does not fall for it... Guess LCC would be happy to see Everton with a new ground in Stonebridge so that LFC can be branded as the team of the city and Everton is more like a Merseyside region team on the outskirts of the city.. furthermore they can say they have done alot to raise the profile of a area needing it
peteblue
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You can imagine the conversation when the 3 Graces were originally planned, "you're gonna build how many and how tall!".....times move on........get the Stadium next to the Mersey.......
I'm hearing still no movement from the club on either site yet - but could be as much as 80/20 in favour of Stonebridge vs waterfront in terms of likelihood as it stands. (echo have just published an article suggesting SC more likely too: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/could-new-everton-stadium-help-11344102)
Bit concern over Waterfront would be travel infrastructure. Whilst we do have a large 'walk up' fan base, there would still be a huge amount of parking required for a 50+k seat stadium, and would lead to massive congestion around the area.
Stonebridge would also require massive parking but there is the space out there to build purpose built parking, and it has good motorway links.
Also the fact that the land is readily available for development and is in Council ownership - and in one of the Mayor's development areas in Stonebridge, so little/no planning permission needed. Whereas Peel own the land on the waterfront so would be a more costly and difficult negotiation.
Sorry to be bearer of "bad" "news"!
Bit concern over Waterfront would be travel infrastructure. Whilst we do have a large 'walk up' fan base, there would still be a huge amount of parking required for a 50+k seat stadium, and would lead to massive congestion around the area.
Stonebridge would also require massive parking but there is the space out there to build purpose built parking, and it has good motorway links.
Also the fact that the land is readily available for development and is in Council ownership - and in one of the Mayor's development areas in Stonebridge, so little/no planning permission needed. Whereas Peel own the land on the waterfront so would be a more costly and difficult negotiation.
Sorry to be bearer of "bad" "news"!
TheSpaniard
Player Valuation: £950k
I'd be surprised if
a) a firm had been hired to do this and we'd heard nothing
b) the cost of doing so hasn't shown up in our budget. Those pesky other operational costs!
Let's hope it's a good site with a good stadium proposal whatever the case is! The commonwealth shout is interesting, still got major doubts how well athletics and football mixes, even with retracable seating and the likes.
Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
Told the games are not for 10 years.
Jacko93
Player Valuation: £35m
TBH, the whole Everton thing is like a microcosm of the city. We can develop, at a cost, and stick within the boundaries set by the age and other restrictions, or we can start again, afresh and make something else to be proud of for future generations, while honouring the past with a reflective design.
Now it sounds a bit like Anderson is making up little promotional fairy stories to ensure he is nominated as Metro mayor. As an Everton fan, past history leads me to imagine that all will be hunky dory until he is in place and then unforeseen circumstances will lead to delays and eventually cancellation...
Hopefully our new owners are as hardnosed and politically ruthless as he is.
Hopefully our new owners are as hardnosed and politically ruthless as he is.
Onwards Evertonians
Player Valuation: £8m
It's our stadium not the councils so we build the stadium to our specifics, not with the Commonwealth Games in mind. The council will dance to our tune.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I haven't fully formulated thoughts and there is a lot to do in this, so in no particular order;
1) The councils announcement may be an attempt to pressure us into the Croxteth option.
2) A Waterfront Stadium would be a huge boost for Everton. Bigger than having Mourinho as manager. It could be viewed as one of the iconic sports stadia in the world given it's location at the heart of a site which was central to the British Empire.
3) We do now have people involved who have the foresight and ability to see the "bigger picture".
4) The people who own the land/building there may have some difficulties in allowing more building work. However when it comes down to it, if Everton can allay their fears we could get agreement from them. Any development they have should only benefit from having a modern new stadium hosting a founded member of the most watched sports league in the world. See Point 3, with the new people involved we can only hope they will see us in a different light.
5) WHS is important but can be overcome, they are a quango. Liverpool have blitzed Anfield and make up for it with a few tokenistic gestures. We would do the same, we could contribute to the world heritate site. Have a small part of a Museum dedicated to Liverpool waterfront etc. Irrespective of this, having a stadium in the centre of Liverpool would be a major benefit to the City and bring tourists in.
6) It would be amazing for us. We could legitimately dominate the City Centre with Everton memorabilia and work closely alongside other partners. LFC would be unable to raise objections as it would be commercial partners. If we built the right ground we would sell out 55-60k I am certain of it and would attract investment into the boxes/commercial side of things.
We really do need to push all out for this. Getting on board either directly or near to a 5.5billion investment project would be huge. The negotiations will be complex but we also have a lot to offer.
1) The councils announcement may be an attempt to pressure us into the Croxteth option.
2) A Waterfront Stadium would be a huge boost for Everton. Bigger than having Mourinho as manager. It could be viewed as one of the iconic sports stadia in the world given it's location at the heart of a site which was central to the British Empire.
3) We do now have people involved who have the foresight and ability to see the "bigger picture".
4) The people who own the land/building there may have some difficulties in allowing more building work. However when it comes down to it, if Everton can allay their fears we could get agreement from them. Any development they have should only benefit from having a modern new stadium hosting a founded member of the most watched sports league in the world. See Point 3, with the new people involved we can only hope they will see us in a different light.
5) WHS is important but can be overcome, they are a quango. Liverpool have blitzed Anfield and make up for it with a few tokenistic gestures. We would do the same, we could contribute to the world heritate site. Have a small part of a Museum dedicated to Liverpool waterfront etc. Irrespective of this, having a stadium in the centre of Liverpool would be a major benefit to the City and bring tourists in.
6) It would be amazing for us. We could legitimately dominate the City Centre with Everton memorabilia and work closely alongside other partners. LFC would be unable to raise objections as it would be commercial partners. If we built the right ground we would sell out 55-60k I am certain of it and would attract investment into the boxes/commercial side of things.
We really do need to push all out for this. Getting on board either directly or near to a 5.5billion investment project would be huge. The negotiations will be complex but we also have a lot to offer.
Coffee and TV
Player Valuation: £25m
Well yeah because they're suggesting bidding for the 2026 games. From what Anderson is saying he seems to want us to build it, use it then make it available for the games if they win the bid.
Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
If he was thinking of the games in 10 years then the new stadium where ever it was built would have to have space for a running track. If the games was the aim makes sense to go for the water front site, a much more headline feature than the Stone place.
Bad news for the club then because the majority of the fans will not accept SC.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I think to get a stadium on the river we would have to show we cared about the wider community (and stuff like WHS). A good part of that would be to offer to host the Commonwealth Games. It would be a perfect justification for the Council to give us preferential treatment. The City needs a world class stadium, and that goes beyond a dump of Anfield and a decrepit Goodison.
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
If the ambition of the new owner is to restore the club to the pinnacle of the game, then there is only one option of the 2 now supposedly on the table.
That obviously being the waterfront.
A waterfront stadium in the heart of the City would be iconic by it's mere existence and the opportunities for revenue generation would vastly outstrip the awful Stonebridge Cross.
Liverpool has a vast shortage of hotel beds, so immediately there'd be an opportunity to put a hotel as part of the design. Being central would make it's use as a conference and business venue a very viable concern. If the team started on the rise the tourist opportunities would be vast, with a waterfront stadium forming part of the tourist trail from the Albert Dock and City centre. A waterfront stadium would be used 7 days a week.
Peel might not have a stadium as part of their master plan, but that plan has gathered dust for 4 years. A stadium development and everything that would organically accompany it, could provide the catalyst that they need to get the entire project moving.
The costs of building there would be higher, due primarily to the land costs, but the potential revenues would also be far higher than a shabby industrial estate in Croxteth.
That obviously being the waterfront.
A waterfront stadium in the heart of the City would be iconic by it's mere existence and the opportunities for revenue generation would vastly outstrip the awful Stonebridge Cross.
Liverpool has a vast shortage of hotel beds, so immediately there'd be an opportunity to put a hotel as part of the design. Being central would make it's use as a conference and business venue a very viable concern. If the team started on the rise the tourist opportunities would be vast, with a waterfront stadium forming part of the tourist trail from the Albert Dock and City centre. A waterfront stadium would be used 7 days a week.
Peel might not have a stadium as part of their master plan, but that plan has gathered dust for 4 years. A stadium development and everything that would organically accompany it, could provide the catalyst that they need to get the entire project moving.
The costs of building there would be higher, due primarily to the land costs, but the potential revenues would also be far higher than a shabby industrial estate in Croxteth.
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