New Everton Stadium

[Jacko93]

Be a hell of a lot easier than a edge of city site served by 2 bus routes and no station close by

Plus there's a mainline station and a locals train service. a bus shuttle service could be put on from the bus Station and would be much better that the soccer bus, leave that to them lot.

 

[joey_macmo]

What do you mean, 'suddenly'? Goodison can be accessed from all sides, and does not require entering the city centre first. A waterfront location can only be accessed from along the docks, or through the city centre. It'd be hell.

They aren't just going to put a stadium in the docks and expect people to get there using the existing infrastructure you know.

 

[hibbo'sclass]

The Etihad Stadium once held a running track at a reduced capacity, the footprint for that would be similar, but with a further extended North stand, as that was all Scaffolding during teh games to allow for the overall length of the stadium to be reduced after the games. that was I think, circa 30k as a running track.

Cheers mate, but the question is still given the (dodgy) dimensions, would it fit on the Trafalgar Dock?

 

[Neiler]

If the club and LCC collective minds are made up on Stonebridge then realistically that's where it will be or stay at undeveloped GP. I would love the waterfront over a draery industrial zone but it will come down to hard talking about time and money.

As regards all the posts about parking and public transport problems, back to Dublin examples....

Croke Park regularly holds crowds of 83,000 in middle of north inner city with damn all car parking or public transport within a mile of the ground. There is one rail station close to CP that only serves one line to the west. Stations for south, south west south east or north of the country from where thousands regularly come, are a distance away..
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People park in the centre or outskirts and walk. Same with regards to buses, tram and light rail. There are police cordons all around the stadium within 500 yards so with few exceptions (Clonliffe College has parking for a few hundred cars at a fee) everyone else walks from the city centre area or other areas within 20-30 minutes of Croker having either parked, got a tram or rail; inter city train stations are even further away.

I live in Kilkenny (90 miles) and I park in city centre then a twenty minute walk will have me at the ground.



The only public transport that goes right to the Aviva is the DART (light rail). Again, most car parking and buses are at least 20-30 minutes walk away.

The Three Arena is within a couple of stops of the Aviva - it is just across the river - but I don't see any issue with Three screaming foul if there is a major fixture in Aviva at the same time as a major concert. There will be enough fans for both events provided the attraction is good. Anyway tickets for concerts etc go on sale months in advance.


The issue here is how much and when. If we mess this up as a club again....I give up ever seeing Everton in a fit for 21st century stadium - I absolutely love Goodison but am realistic.

I never like these comparisons mate and there have been many over the years, firstly Croke Park is rarely ever at Capacity at most maybe 6-8 times a year with Dublin doing well presently and as a regular attender its a nightmare on the day of a full house in terms of transport as is the city in general, its grand if you visit and head home but no so much if you live in the City, Bus Train, Parking and the Luas. The great thing about the UK is that have processes in place to make sure these bottlenecks and disruption to normal City life dont happen in comparrison to our style building it on a wing or prayer and see how it pans out.

Less we forget it also received 100 odd mill all in in government funding.

 

[Duncan Disordely]

Spurs:

The stadium's main feature will be a retractable pitch that rolls back to reveal a second playing surface, to accommodate the two American football games the club will host each season.

"Populous has always been a pioneer of new technologies," explained Populous principal Christopher Lee.

"The world's first sliding pitch allows each sport to play on its own dedicated pitch and provides perfect sightlines for their fans," he said, adding that the firm drew on experience from designing a moving roof over Centre Court at Wimbledon.

No reason why this couldn't work to accommodate a track and field surface

 

[The Cowboy]

Be a hell of a lot easier than a edge of city site served by 2 bus routes and no station close by

Well I don't have any hard facts to hand, but judging by the amount of cars on the road after the game, a large proportion of fans drive to the game. Forget your two bus routes, it's car access that's the big issue.

I'm not being a proponent of the SC site, not at all, I'm just saying purely in terms of access, the dock site would be a nightmare. They'd need to develop a pretty radical access plan to make it work.

 

[fremad]

So let me get this straight, if the choice was SC or nothing, you`d hold the club back by staying at Goodison?

So I guess you were in favour of the Kirkby project then?

Think the club is in a better position today...

Also think we would have been better off not signing Naisse and waiting a transfer window for some better option... Lets face it Stonebridge stadium would be setting the ambition at "Naisse level" once again... not worthy of this club

 

[The Cowboy]

They aren't just going to put a stadium in the docks and expect people to get there using the existing infrastructure you know.

I know. But the required infrastructure could be very costly.

 

[jceverton]

Is this assuming no Goodison redevelopment?

I'd rather redevelop Goodison than move out to Stonebridge Cross. We shouldn't be moving further away from the city centre.

 

[jinkyali]

How important is steel in all this? Doesn't FM own a steel company?

 

[D410]

I reckon there's only one site and it's Stonebridge Cross to be honest, in the coming days the Echo and/or Peel will tell us why the Waterfront site isn't possible, you watch.

Fingers crossed we don,t get railroaded up to SC because it will be another bitter battle.

 

[jaycee]

Well I don't have any hard facts to hand, but judging by the amount of cars on the road after the game, a large proportion of fans drive to the game. Forget your two bus routes, it's car access that's the big issue.

I'm not being a proponent of the SC site, not at all, I'm just saying purely in terms of access, the dock site would be a nightmare. They'd need to develop a pretty radical access plan to make it work.

But thats the problem without car access its a difficult site to enter/egress city centre has plenty of public transport at hand plus plenty of distractions before after the game compared to arrive leave at the Croxteth sute

 

[joey_macmo]

I know. But the required infrastructure could be very costly.

Not as costly long term as SC would be imo. It would be a disaster down the line for everton

 

[ForeverEverton]

Is this assuming no Goodison redevelopment?[/]

We don't know if this is 1 of the 2 sites yet, everyones going la la over the Waterfront but we don't even know if that is on offer....

 

[andy4efc]

It's not unfair to suggest Goodison is holding the club back a little. The money we're missing out on via corporate boxes and such is huge.