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davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Bingo.
He didn't want that though, he wanted to position Everton without giving the club an opportunity (remember that word used 20 times in that podcast?) to respond before publication.
That's known as a hit piece...and by a known Kopite hack.
I expect Everton to be contacting the Athletic ASAP to give someone a huge 'kin bollocking.
I don't give a toss if a few kopites or the whole world is against it or are trying to tarnish the build. Not worth wasting your breath about it but more importantly we know 'It is getting Built regardless'. That is all that matters
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Hughes will be sitting back laughing his bollocks off right now having got a BBC journalist and a member of Liverpool's black rights community on board with his agenda...and he'll be getting huge pats on the back from the likes of Evans and the 'lads' at the Anfield Wrap.
Does it matter though @davek ........really? Does it?
This piece is well ironic that’s all I see it as. Myself being mixed race and my dad being black all know about the past with regards to slavery. Myself being a massive lover of history. Liverpool is one of many city ports that can trace itself back to the bad times of slavery. That’s one of the reasons how our city and others grew. I just find it ironic that now they do a piece when the dock has been left derelict for years. Now if apartments or shopping Centre was going there would the same piece come out. They may be genuine but I can see how it comes across as having a sly dig at us.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Yes, it does. Very much so.
You cant allow your enemies to define you.
It's madness to think our new home and the club along with it are being positioned in such a way by a national journal.
I think loads of Evertonians are conditioned to seeing sly digs everywhere.
In this particular case, I honestly thing the journo jumped at the chance to provide a bit of history AND have a dig at the same time.
He can't lose in this instance "I was only telling the story."
Honestly, the more people that know of the history the better, it's just unfortunate The Athletic chose a rabid Kopite for the piece.
Pretty much.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
The fact of the matter is that you cant get away from slavery in Liverpool. It was built by cash from exploiting and murdering slaves. There is no major institution untouched by it. The city council had to own up to the crimes of their predecessors in the Liverpool borough corporation, and much of the city's historic architecture is from money donated by slave owners and slave economy traders.
As you say, for a city-based football journalist to get a conscience about it now is very suspicious.
I said it above: that was a hit piece. And I'm right.
Fully agree with you on that. Someone mentioned that the club may be doing something, with regards to the history of the dock at the pump house. If they are then that’s good on the club. If they don’t and it’s just history about everton I’m more than fine with that too. You only have to walk 10 mins to Albert dock and you get all the history you need.
Have to agree with all the points you made. As they are facts!. We are proud to be blues and I’m proud I was born in this city. I don’t need a nobody telling me about the past, we will never forget the past and that’s goes for all the past. Not just certain topics to suit an agenda.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
The most appalling (and laughable) thing about this Bramley Moore business is that the very name 'Liverpool' is central to the whole Atlantic slave trade of the 18th and 19th centuries. Liverpool was the hub for it. Its central economic player. If we are to address this whole naming issue logically and thoroughly you'd have to have the city explain itself at every turn as the hub of slavery and have it on civic motifs and letter heads etc to be consistent.
It's always been my view that we need to memorialise the location of the stadium and educate people through that...which the club are going to do. Then simply let the slaver trader's name ebb away over the course of time - which it will if there's no reference to it as the stadium's location.
It's always been my view that we need to memorialise the location of the stadium and educate people through that...which the club are going to do. Then simply let the slaver trader's name ebb away over the course of time - which it will if there's no reference to it as the stadium's location.
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The following is taken from the Liverpool National Museums website -
There is still evidence of Liverpool’s role in the transatlantic slave trade around the city centre. Bold, Tarleton and Cunliffe Streets in the city centre are amongst many streets named after merchants who were involved in the trade. Many buildings, including the Town Hall, were built with wealth created by the trade
No one will deny the abhorrence of the slave trade and Liverpool's part in it but why the National media should now suddenly show an interest does smack just a tad of Kopite opportunism. Be interesting to know when the name changes of the aforementioned streets take place...or does that not fit the narrative ?
There is still evidence of Liverpool’s role in the transatlantic slave trade around the city centre. Bold, Tarleton and Cunliffe Streets in the city centre are amongst many streets named after merchants who were involved in the trade. Many buildings, including the Town Hall, were built with wealth created by the trade
No one will deny the abhorrence of the slave trade and Liverpool's part in it but why the National media should now suddenly show an interest does smack just a tad of Kopite opportunism. Be interesting to know when the name changes of the aforementioned streets take place...or does that not fit the narrative ?
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
A lot of them are getting accompanying plaques that record the slave connection to these street names. Everton FC's plan is to match that commitment.
WTF Everton are supposed to do outwith that I have no idea. Take some holy water around the site and bless it?
The feller has nothing to do with EFC and the club should mark the site with a memorial but gradually ease off their present usage of it...which, tbf, they have done in relation to the stadium itself.