AndyRJ
Player Valuation: £6m
Care to point me in the direction of all this evidence then?
You're not off to a good start considering Spurs, the most recent example, moved mid season. Whether they were at WHL or not is immaterial.
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You're not off to a good start considering Spurs, the most recent example, moved mid season. Whether they were at WHL or not is immaterial.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
West Ham
Arsenal
Sunderland
Middlesbrough
Southampton
Man City
Brentford
Brighton
Leicester
Stoke
Swansea
Cardiff
Hull
Wigan
Reading
Rotherham
Derby
Hope this helps. Over to you to name some mid-season stadium moves.
AndyRJ
Player Valuation: £6m
That's a list of teams. Where is the corresponding data to back up what you're saying? When were those stadia completed in relation to the season?
I'll bet not a single one of them lay empty for 6 months just because it was mid season.
Why include Man City and West Ham when they inherited those stadiums so could quite easily agree to move during the summer?
You've categorically stated it doesn't happen yet Spurs did exactly that.
Clearly its much easier to move outside of the season but there is absolutely no reason why it can't or won't be done.
If you think that the club will leave the new ground empty and unused for any significant period just because we're in the middle of a season you're deluded.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
It’s a list of stadium moves that didn’t happen mid-season mate. Do you have any more to add to your list of 1 that have happened mid-season? Bonus point for you if said team that moved was actually playing at their own stadium and not tenanting at the time.
Even when the stadium is handed over isn’t there a number of test events that need to happen in order to get a safety cert, vaguely remember Spurs having to that.
Yep thought so seems there is a bit of regulation to be gone through even after handover:
www.skysports.com
Tottenham stadium Q&A: What has to happen before they move in?
Tottenham are still playing their matches at Wembley for now
AndyRJ
Player Valuation: £6m
Why didn't they happen mid season though? It wasn't because they finished 6 months earlier and they decided not to move because MikeH72 from GOT says they couldn't.
If the move went ahead outside of the season it's because that's when it was programmed to happen. Like we've programmed for it to happen then but it won't as it isn't going to be finished in time.
Give me a single reason why Everton, or any club for that matter, would leave their newly built ground empty for any significant period just because it's mid season?
Why does it matter one iota that Spurs had already left WHL? It makes absolutely no difference whatsoever.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
The fact that stadium moves don’t happen mid season appears to have irked you a bit. I am very sorry for presenting you with this fact.
Id say Season tickets would be a big reason mate, administration nightmare. How would you sell season tickets for Goodison and BMD at the same time and honor them, likewise corporate boxes, hospitality, police logistics, insurance, sponsorship, safety plans, can think of loads of reasons really.
AndyRJ
Player Valuation: £6m
The fact your talking complete and utter rubbish is what has irked me.
You haven't backed up anything you've said. What dates were each of those stadiums finished in relation to the season starting? How many of them were finished mid-season and left empty purely because it was mid-season?
Spurs literally moved mid-season. You haven't given me an answer as to why it makes a difference if they had already left WHL.
You haven't given me a single reason as to why it couldn't happen mid-season.
The fact that you can't answer any of the above is enough for me to know your talking garbage
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AndyRJ
Player Valuation: £6m
Why would it make a difference mid-season? Spurs managed it.
Apparently most of the hospitality has already been sold. I'll bet all the picking of your seat for existing season ticket holders will already be done well before the build is finished. Same with new season tickets. They're not, and aren't, going to wait until the stadium is finished to sort tickets out.
All the new and existing season tickets will be allocated prior to moving. New ticket holders would pay a reduced price based on the number of games left. Existing holders would just transfer to Bramley Moore and pay any increase the following season.
The club would want the income generated from fan spend i.e. drinks, food, club shop etc.
They aren't going to let a £500m plus stadium lie empty for months just because we're mid season. Maybe if we only have a one or two home games left they might but not if we've got half the season still to go. Makes absolutley ZERO commercial sense whatsoever.
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Good point this, I have a bad feeling it won't be ready, it's one thing getting the structure built, it's another it being ready, tested and passed.
Maybe they won’t, but I don’t think they will move mid season mate for the reasons I said, your getting into contract law etc and it’s a massive roundy object ache.
I can only tell you this, for my sins work asked me a few years ago, to go off and do a project management qualification, mainly so they could justify me implementing Heath care initiatives in my area of practice. You have no idea the absolute scale of detail that goes from moving a bog standard company office of 20 people from old office to a new office over a weekend, that people turn off their computers at five on Friday and switch them on in a new office at 9 on a Monday. It’s massive, in terms of a business case, product breakdown, procurement, stakeholder analysis, quality assurance, risk and developing a critical path for that move - a project of this scale - You would be off your rocker as a project manager to do it mid season, in two weeks, a good project manger would advice against it on a cost risk analysis. Even trying to plan a critical path relying on a third party regulation - is foolish - look at what happened to Spurs. There situation was different to ours, they had debt to be serviced, they were paying rent and had over extended themselves -they didn’t have a home ground to play in as they were developing the WHL site. Levy lost it in the end.
None of us know for certain of course, but id be amazed if they do it mid season - it’s simply not the clever play, for the reasons I mention above and in my previous posts.
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4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
In the championship? Or the lower leagues in general like Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Wigan, Derby, Reading....etc who.all moved and proved it guarantees nothing