I'm talking about a partnership with the Council you utter cretin
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New Everton Stadium
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The Esk
Player Valuation: £70m
Can we be a bit more civil please, no need for name calling.
The council are the elected reps of the public. The council can cpo third party land, regardless of whether it is for 'private business'. In this case the 'private business' of land banking it for years.
Peel have invested more in Liverpool than Manchester have they? I take it when you say investment you mean they have bought the land, and then done what exactly with it?
The future prestige of Everton for the next hundred years depends upon them getting a good location for the stadium. This is an issue which the vast majority of rate payers of Liverpool care deeply about. If a land banking billionaire cannot fit a stadium into his long term plans for the waterfront my proposal is that the club and the Council in partnership take the land necessary to construct he stadium off him. Now you May Think this is pie in the sky, I think it is very doable
Gardocki
Player Valuation: £8m
Anyone who thinks there is even a 1% chance of the city council CPOing land, which is designated for the regeneration of the docklands, in order for Everton to build a football stadium is living in dreamland.
This potential stadium move to the docks is all about co-operation. Hopefully Peel see the stadium as compatible with other proposed uses, and potentially as a way of helping to kick-start another phase of development around the docks. What is encouraging is that talks are on-going. If they didn't feel this way, I think it would already have been ruled out.
The only potential council involvement would be with regard to committing to providing better transport infrastructure, which is required no matter what is built there.
This potential stadium move to the docks is all about co-operation. Hopefully Peel see the stadium as compatible with other proposed uses, and potentially as a way of helping to kick-start another phase of development around the docks. What is encouraging is that talks are on-going. If they didn't feel this way, I think it would already have been ruled out.
The only potential council involvement would be with regard to committing to providing better transport infrastructure, which is required no matter what is built there.
Magus
Player Valuation: £8m
The Council could act as a broker if they have legitimate concerns about whether the proposed regeneration benefits of the Peel development are likely to be realised.
I don't know the details of Peel's planning consent, but if they have not activated the consent by carrying out some works on the ground then sooner or later the permission would need to be renewed. At that point the Council could legitimately start asking questions about the viability of the scheme and the potential for viable alternatives.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
This is spot on. Joe Anderson coming out and saying his preferred solution is the Dock is a huge move. it doesn't mean we are shoe ins but he obviously thinks there's a possibility (at the very least) otherwise he wouldn't wish to make himself look stupid.
In the end it is up to the club. If we make a proposal for a high quality football stadium for a football team which will be playing and competing at the top of the biggest sports league in the world people will want to be on board with that. It will bring value to the area it will rise the price of the land around it, help further regenerate the land and bring a huge quantity of visitors to Liverpool every 2 weeks alongside the potential of wealthy corporates flooding into the City centre 2+ times a year.
That as a proposal will make the majority of people from the council, to Peel holdings, the Liverpool one project and businesses around be very excited. Before when we looked frankly quite an amateur outfit begging money off others we probably didn't look very enticing. In the world of commerce perception is important, and Bill/Elstone looking for almost charity like contributions from businesses to help us will have just made businesses question whether we could add anything of value. We looked what we were which was charlatans looking to maximise our own ends.
Moshiri and his people are a different league to what we had before. They will present a case that not only benefits Everton but through that process will benefit the City Centre. If we get the support of the council I think it would be a very attractive investment option. In all honesty the potential is enormous and a new ground could give it the shot in the arm it needs. A 5.5 billion pound renovation running alongside an iconic football stadium would be massive. I suspect you would see the City Centre Branching further outwards and we would be at the absolute centre of it.
So again, if the council and peel work in partnership why would the council need to cpo the land???
I've already listed investment they've made, but it goes bigger than because it's driving business to Liverpool. Maersk, ACL, CMA CGM have all increased throughput via the port of liverpool.
And the majority of land is being developed, it was purchased as part of 20 year strategic movement by Peel with the Port of Liverpool being the final development area, and it is being developed which you are probably unaware of. Canada and huskisson are being developed with new warehousing going up, the a huge bio mass development is now complete which has had huge increase on trade and L2, which will see the world's biggest container vessels calling, is on for completion this year.
So no, they're not just land banking at all and that's why the LA will not invoke a cpo. The amount of business that this company is adding to the north west region outweigh's a football stadium, not something people want to hear but the truth
Totally agree, I know a company who has been doing enabling work for HV substations on some of the old docks. Projects of this size take years to complete.
TheFinnFan
Finners
Doubt we would ever get the docks. In a long term it would mean possible powershift or atleast make it possible, so Ultimately it's a no go.
Bazlar
Player Valuation: £25m
Who else is there and where do they own land mate?
Dom1878
Player Valuation: £60m
Would love to have a stadium similar to bocas (with a roof of course)
1 corporate end allowing for 3 tiers all around the stadium yet not a massive capacity (49000), you're close to the action where ever you are also. 2 tiers all the way around just looks a bit mediocre. Plus it'd look different to anything in the UK.
1 corporate end allowing for 3 tiers all around the stadium yet not a massive capacity (49000), you're close to the action where ever you are also. 2 tiers all the way around just looks a bit mediocre. Plus it'd look different to anything in the UK.
Just to confirm/get clarification...is the area being talked about Trafalgar Docks (11,12,13 etc.)?
That Echo Arena could stand to be extended by 40,000 seats, I reckon.