New Everton Stadium

[BlueStevie35]

let’s HOPE we’re not trying to trek it from the championship

Where’s the eye roll emoji when you need one?

 

[matty1878]

Where’s the eye roll emoji when you need one?

no iphone? lol

 

[BlueStevie35]

no iphone? lol

Yes but it needs it on the reaction button on here

 

[matty1878]

Yes but it needs it on the reaction button on here

lol

 

[Dixie D]

let’s HOPE we’re not trying to trek it from the championship

Ohh Matty ....If you change the way you look at things, The things you look at change!

 

[EuroTexan]

It's true. But then...

We have had cautious Everton, cautious Robert Elstone, and (forgive me for any Meis lovers) the architect that didn't get the need for a larger
stadium that is in comparison with our peers (size envy he called it) and while everyone were talking about 61878 cautious Everton choose a
capacity that was almost 10,000 fewer seats.

I suppose there's potential to expand, and from that point of view the club being cautious could be compared to how City's stadium has grew
or the RS's has grew, along side success on the pitch. Lest we forget financial stability (which isn't the case with us in recent years). The cautious approach
could almost be deemed "sensible". I don't agree with that myself we should have gone 60,000 plus from the off. It is what it is.

I don't mind the lower capacity. Lets see if the extra capacity over Goodison is filled out regularly, and if it is then it becomes obvious for the then owners to extend (hoping/praying Mosh has been shown the door by then). The worst thing would for it to become another Delle Alpi thats soulless and half empty which would be possible if the worst happens this season. As is, I'm just hoping that whoever owns the club by the time its finished (and presuming we're still in the PL) doesn't do a Spurs on it and increase the prices so they're completely unreasonable to try and earn back more quickly what has been spent on the build. Ultimately whats delivered on the pitch will determine demand, so there's an obvious benefit to the then owners to continue investment in the squad.

Of course, in the current real world we're still owned by Moshiri, and if that continues for much longer, then 50k capacity might seem extravagant by the time we get to move in.

 

[Amw79]

best ground in the CS wel have

Better than being in the CS and not having the best ground.

 

[Milkman]

I don't mind the lower capacity. Lets see if the extra capacity over Goodison is filled out regularly, and if it is then it becomes obvious for the then owners to extend (hoping/praying Mosh has been shown the door by then). The worst thing would for it to become another Delle Alpi thats soulless and half empty which would be possible if the worst happens this season. As is, I'm just hoping that whoever owns the club by the time its finished (and presuming we're still in the PL) doesn't do a Spurs on it and increase the prices so they're completely unreasonable to try and earn back more quickly what has been spent on the build. Ultimately whats delivered on the pitch will determine demand, so there's an obvious benefit to the then owners to continue investment in the squad.

Of course, in the current real world we're still owned by Moshiri, and if that continues for much longer, then 50k capacity might seem extravagant by the time we get to move in.

Uncalled for that mate, he's had a tough time of it lately and we need to be getting behind the lad

 

[The binman chronicles]

 

[Tom Hughes]

It's true. But then...

We have had cautious Everton, cautious Robert Elstone, and (forgive me for any Meis lovers) the architect that didn't get the need for a larger
stadium that is in comparison with our peers (size envy he called it) and while everyone were talking about 61878 cautious Everton choose a
capacity that was almost 10,000 fewer seats.

I suppose there's potential to expand, and from that point of view the club being cautious could be compared to how City's stadium has grew
or the RS's has grew, along side success on the pitch. Lest we forget financial stability (which isn't the case with us in recent years). The cautious approach
could almost be deemed "sensible". I don't agree with that myself we should have gone 60,000 plus from the off. It is what it is.

Tbf to Meis, it wasn't him who set the capacity. That was entirely a club-led decision (albeit no doubt at least partially based on the cost for his designs).

He designed 2 schemes. The larger 60k+ option was really for the commonwealth games bid, as that would've come with major funding to offset the cost of the higher capacity (which could've been 50%+ higher than the 53k version). As soon as that failed, the 60k option was pretty much off the table in reality. Because of his popularity after the initial unveil etc, Meis was then wheeled out to justify the lower capacity (classic Kenwright).... I agree though that he was slightly over-zealous in that role and didn't need to use the "size envy" comment, nor the "wear a big coat" one when people questioned weather protection from the high roof, or asked where the closing roof was at that price.

Future-proofing of any new stadium development is always a key issue. The barrel roof is the signature design feature, yet this will have to be changed dramatically to add further capacity on the sides (as suggested by Colin Chong). Maybe the barrel could become a stepped barrel or Armadillo roof to accommodate a new tier on either side.

Unfortunately, the economic reality is that construction cost per seat can rise significantly with increased capacity, while the corresponding ticket prices to fill it can drop with increased supply. Whether they have under or over-estimated is yet to be seen, but they will know that a lower capacity will give them more scope to increase ticket prices (improve ROI) than the higher option.

 

[Lmc2016]

Think that might be a bit bigger than the specific Ten Streets area, perhaps? The so called Ten Streets stretch from Oil St in the south to Saltney St in the north.

Yea Ten Streets area is between Costco & the Titanic basically.

The area directly infront of the stadium, Bramley Moore Pub etc will no doubt see developments over time aswell though

 

[matty1878]

Better than being in the CS and not having the best ground.

lol

 

[Gardocki]

I see they have started removing those diagonal support pillars under the south stand concourse.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

best ground in the CS wel have

Doooooooooooooooooommmmmm

 

[Dr Baxter]

I see they have started removing those diagonal support pillars under the south stand concourse.

Yeah, a few went a few weeks back, I think. There will be 2 together, one more or less vertical and a skinnier one at about 10 degrees. Loads of room under that stand. Keep you nice and dry on a rainy day.