Anybody else notice from the latest drone videos the huge amount of tarmac they are putting down where the fan zone will be? As I understand it, that area will be cobbled eventually, so it must just be temporary to ensure vehicles entering the site for the next part of the build don't get stuck in the mud. So much attention to detail. Incredible, really.
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ok mate.
Just for reference though, I have you in the "people that seem to know what they're talking about" category
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
Yes it slightly surprises me to see so many young fans in our crowd and on the buses and trains to Goodison , The club have given advantageous terms to young fans in the past few seasons and it has worked. Just look at pictures of our crowds home and away and there's plenty of young fans.
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
I can remember reading an article years ago saying the we had one of the highest average age fanbases.... but that was probably over 10yrs ago. Of course, aging fanbase and aging match-going fanbase is a slightly different thing. Full stadiums have meant that for many clubs, their average match-going fanbase age has continued to rise in recent years. It's become a ticking time bomb, with fewer and fewer young fans of some clubs being able to access or afford tickets, to what has essentially become a closed shop. We introduced very cheap kids tickets years ago and I like many others jumped on it making sure all my kids got tickets. Within a few years we filled our season ticket capacity... and we've had a waiting list ever since.... the point being that this was partly facilitated by our lack of success and our older average aged fanbase dropping of their perch.
Paul Rideout
Player Valuation: £40m
when the roof goes on is there going to be a big tarpaulin put over the top to ensure the weather doesn't stop continued work in the stadium itself? lol
Gardocki
Player Valuation: £8m
Hi Tom
Thanks for the reply. I'm not going to go back on each post to check where I have misquoted you. I apologise if I did. I also don't want to get too argumentative as I think these conversations are great. Apologies again if I did.
What I do feel though is the narrative you bring to this topic focuses on the restrictions/problems of BMD that you say is difficult to overcome, while your mindset for other grounds seems to be that far more difficult challenges in those stadiums could easily be overcome.
There is no reason to believe the current height limit of BMD would be sacrosanct. If my memory serves me right, the roof height was reduced slightly so the building would be considered 'mid-rise' and faces less scrutiny in the planning process. BMD already towers above everything apart from the Tobacco Warehouse, and is a unique structure, rather than one that needs to be of a scale that fits in with the character of neighbouring buildings. This should be far less an issue than re-aligning WBR behind the kop or buying all those houses. It's not really a matter of giving people a few quid to move out of their homes. It is a long, complicated process which would take years. By all accounts, LFC haven't even started that process nor have they signalled their intention to do so.
toffee66
Player Valuation: £8m
Can we finish the stadium, occupy it, sell it out and (hopefully) watch PL football in it before we dig ourselves in for trench warfare over capacity, facilities, acoustics etc.? We have opinions but none of us truly know at this point. Voice the opinions but admit the uncertainty and let’s not make it personal. Tom’s views are a useful counterpoint to the optimists.
Some of us argue that we should give new signings every support and opportunity to prove themselves in our shirt rather deciding before they are bought that they are inadequate. I feel just the same about BMD. Cautious optimism until I have concrete experience to the contrary. I don’t ‘know’ anything for certain but I choose this approach. Others can make different choices.
As a retired CFO I am more worried about the funding than the design tbh but that is another rabbit hole I choose not to go down until things are clearer with MSP and the future solution to the remaining funding gap.
Some of us argue that we should give new signings every support and opportunity to prove themselves in our shirt rather deciding before they are bought that they are inadequate. I feel just the same about BMD. Cautious optimism until I have concrete experience to the contrary. I don’t ‘know’ anything for certain but I choose this approach. Others can make different choices.
As a retired CFO I am more worried about the funding than the design tbh but that is another rabbit hole I choose not to go down until things are clearer with MSP and the future solution to the remaining funding gap.
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
With such a high percentage of season tickets that demographic would just get older and older unless they get fed up and stop. Hopefully with the extra capacity it gives a lot of younger fans the chance to help bring that average age down.
The problem is football is so expensive nowadays you get almost two extremes, young people who work but live at home usually have a large disposable income and older people who have paid off their mortgages and the kids have grown up and moved out. The ones in-between kind of get squeezed.
That must be a picture from Wallasey, right?
Heck of a lens on that camera. It's like the Mersey isn't even there.
Very much looks like a stadium now.
