New Everton Stadium
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Personally, I'd be amazed if, at the very least, the new owners don't revisit the decision to move in at the start of the 25/26 season. Early Spring 25 looks the best bet for me.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
The club have to get a test event or two out the way early in the new year. That'd leave a good 6 months to rake a few quid in and get this facility to start paying its way. I'm not sure if there's a precedent for that at other newly built stadia?
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I'd question that. It all seems to be sorted on the 25/26 season.
vintage-toffees
Player Valuation: £10m
I’m sure I read the will be open days Dave
Also read there will be concerts in summer can’t remember who said it though
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I hope so mate.
And let's have it right, that stadium is the fans' not the players. There should be no issue with supporters and tourists having a prior taste of the facility before the core activity begins.
vintage-toffees
Player Valuation: £10m
Might have been Paul gregg who I read saying about it being used during the summer
Rest assured the yanks once confirmed will be pushing for it to be used and seen asap with their connections In the entertainment industry I wouldn’t be surprised to see it hosting a few big names next summer
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
Don't think anyone has had to wait this long before handover and the first game/real event. Even the Olympic stadium had it's first test event end of March ahead of the late July opening.
Spurs bashed through their test events in a week to get it signed off for the first team to play asap.
It's likely there will be a youth team, Women's and possibly legends games held with increasing attendances.
vintage-toffees
Player Valuation: £10m
Spurs was well over delivered estimate on build though
Kever10
Player Valuation: £20m
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
Yes they had electrical issues with the safety systems that put the test events back. They might have had a bit more time in between each event if not, then again it just depends when it was supposed to be handed over. It's not exactly rushed if you do these events over a period of two weeks (three weekends).
tommye
Player Valuation: £100m
Bike racks, the detail is amazing really, with the Archibald Leitch design engraved into them, what more can Dave wish for.
The end of that is amazing.
It's 'kin beautiful.
And it's ours.
Can't wait to just plonk my arse on a seat and sit and soak it in. Stunning
Davideeyore
Player Valuation: £25m
Completely take issue with you there Tom. The capacity has nothing to do with "nearly bankrupting the club" utter bs. It's a misdirection to say that. The reasons
the club is in the mess it's in is because of 2 or 3 things but the capacity is not one of them. The fact that Moshiri didn't secure funding in the correct way is right up there, along with the war in Ukraine which put the kibosh on Moshiri's funding powers. The way the football club has been run is equally at the top of the list of reasons it's absolutely no f-in secret!
It's utter claptrap that about the additional costs for the additional capacity. IF the club had been better run and the board and Moshiri had a proper funding plan then things would have been different.
As it were, the cautious Everton from the Elstone days didn't back us the fans and 52k it was when everyone else were telling Meis 61878!
Davideeyore
Player Valuation: £25m
I also take issue with you repeatedly telling everyone that 60k was about the Commonwealth Games.
The move to BM / 60k capacity was never based on the CWG I remember it was mooted clearly it was out there. But let's not mix the two. Again another misdirection.
The club downgraded from the original 60k size because they were playing it safe. They didn't think we could fill such a size. That was absolutely nothing to do with the CWG not coming to Liverpool.
The football club have for too long been cautious and undersold the fan base. Deciding on a 52k capacity instead of 60k was very puzzling indeed. But clearly finances plays a part too.
Fans shouldn't assume the the club moving to a new stadium as being "ambitious" when moving to a new stadium was infact a necessity ~ more so because of a lack of modernisation at Goodison Park for the best part of 30 years. Lets not forget not only was the Park End half the size it should have been, but It was paid for or part funded by the Football Trust!!!
The Kenwright years..... Someone should write a book about that.
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
The owner is having to sell up and take at least a half billion pound hit in the process because of the cost of the stadium. The club spent years trying to secure funding. At no point in that whole process was any financial institution prepared to meet the funding gap.... even at the original projected levels and before the Ukraine war started. So the financial model was fundamentally weak and it has essentially been bank of daddy from the start.... As I said, that's ok while daddy is prepared to hang around long enough to absorb the debt and to allow the stadium to be completed, get established and start funding itself (via lucrative sponsorship deals also from bank of daddy). After that, if it doesn't, the debt has to fall on someone, be it the owner, the club or any new owner going forward. Moshiri had to go cap in hand to secure high interest payday loans before it was halfway through the build, just to keep it and the club going, with the ensuing interest payments alone threatening to more than wipe out any future prospective increased income from the new stadium...... He has now had to sell the whole club for less than the stadium cost alone and without him taking that hit, the club's whole sustainability is/was under threat. So it's far from BS to suggest that the cost of the stadium has nearly Bankcrupted the club.
Nor is it clap trap to suggest that additional capacity costs significantly more money. That's simply the basic economics of any stadium development. Build cost per seat rises with capacity, therefore total build cost rises exponentially, that's why a 60k stadium generally costs multiples of (and not just twice) the cost of 30k stadium. So, adding 10k seats to BMD would cost far more than simply adding 20% to the cost of the current 52k stadium, which was already crippling us. The funding shortfall and the resultant loans needed, would have been even worse than what has pushed us to the edge and forced the club's sale, at a massive loss to the owner. So it's nonsensical to suggest otherwise.