New Everton Stadium

[The binman chronicles]

newcastle want to expand to 65-70,000

and we have 52.

Unless the TV money goes out the window the capacity isn't a huge deal. If Newcastle use that increase for all hospitality then it makes sense but then atmosphere won't improve because it.

The bigger the capacity the more likely it will be filled with daytrippers and tourists again creating a more sedate experience for all. Newcastle are probably one of the only clubs that could lay out billions on the basis of returns of tens of millions per annum, that's not game changing difference though. What could is moving from St James Park and getting a sponsorship deal like the Etihad.

 

[PhilM]

Unless the TV money goes out the window the capacity isn't a huge deal. If Newcastle use that increase for all hospitality then it makes sense but then atmosphere won't improve because it.

The bigger the capacity the more likely it will be filled with daytrippers and tourists again creating a more sedate experience for all. Newcastle are probably one of the only clubs that could lay out billions on the basis of returns of tens of millions per annum, that's not game changing difference though. What could is moving from St James Park and getting a sponsorship deal like the Etihad.

Exactly. They can afford to pump huge amounts of money into a new stadium, without the cost and risk of financing. For their owners, it's small fry!

From this, the new stadium's sponsorship could bring the much-needed money they need to push on and get behind PSR, alongside improved match day revenue.

 

[Neiler]

Unless the TV money goes out the window the capacity isn't a huge deal. If Newcastle use that increase for all hospitality then it makes sense but then atmosphere won't improve because it.

The bigger the capacity the more likely it will be filled with daytrippers and tourists again creating a more sedate experience for all. Newcastle are probably one of the only clubs that could lay out billions on the basis of returns of tens of millions per annum, that's not game changing difference though. What could is moving from St James Park and getting a sponsorship deal like the Etihad.

Doing anything with SJP would cost a bomb id imagine its right in the middle of the City center and its a tight site.

Not sure the juice would be worth the squeeze.

 

[Toffeeslam]

Doing anything with SJP would cost a bomb id imagine its right in the middle of the City center and its a tight site.

Not sure the juice would be worth the squeeze.

The return on investment of those extra thousands of seats will be a very very long time indeed, commercially it’s not worth the monumental costs to do that.

Also like you said SJP is on a very tight footprint so I’d imagine they will have to knock down adjacent buildings to do that.

It’s the hospitality aspect where this would only make sense really and fo you need 65-70k for that ?

They are going that high to convince themselves they are a big club which they are not…..they are a one city club in a backwater part of the country with no significant competition from other major clubs.

BTW no culture either so going to the football is the geordies equivalent of the opera

 

[muckers]

Exactly. They can afford to pump huge amounts of money into a new stadium, without the cost and risk of financing. For their owners, it's small fry!

From this, the new stadium's sponsorship could bring the much-needed money they need to push on and get behind PSR, alongside improved match day revenue.

Their owners want to run the club properly, they are not willing to just pump money in if it doesn’t make business sense. When they bought into Newcastle, they actually borrowed £30 million off Mike Ashley. It is anything but a vanity project.

Whatever they do with St James or a new ground, it will have to make commercial sense.

They have the worst training ground in the Premier League and their trillionaire owners have done nothing about it and as it stands, they’ve owned Newcastle for 3 years and haven’t done a thing about the stadium either.

 

[Toffeeslam]

Their owners want to run the club properly, they are not willing to just pump money in if it doesn’t make business sense.

Whatever they do with St James or a new ground, it will have to make commercial sense.

They have the worst training ground in the Premier League and their trillionaire owners have done nothing about it and as it stands, they’ve owned Newcastle for 3 years and haven’t done a thing about the stadium either.

I saw the look on his face when Tonali first rocked up there…….its like he went back time some 39 years.

His Mrs was also shocked when they were touring the gaff

 

[Tom Hughes]

Doing anything with SJP would cost a bomb id imagine its right in the middle of the City center and its a tight site.

Not sure the juice would be worth the squeeze.

They've had plans in place for years to extend the Gallowgate and the corner with the Milburn Stand, to get them up to approx 60k. Originally that would've been for less than £100m. Not sure what it would be now.

However, the latest rumours are that if they are staying at the existing site (which they are still discussing), then it will be a full remodel of each stand, moving the pitch away from the Leazes terrace to free up some space for more capacity on that side. Essentially building a whole new stadium in situ.

 

[Toffeeslam]

They've had plans in place for years to extend the Gallowgate and the corner with the Milburn Stand, to get them up to approx 60k. Originally that would've been for less than £100m. Not sure what it would be now.

However, the latest rumours are that if they are staying at the existing site (which they are still discussing), then it will be a full remodel of each stand, moving the pitch away from the Leazes terrace to free up some space for more capacity on that side. Essentially building a whole new stadium in situ.

Fraught with problems that especially if they are hosting matches during that process

 

[Dr Baxter]

They've had plans in place for years to extend the Gallowgate and the corner with the Milburn Stand, to get them up to approx 60k. Originally that would've been for less than £100m. Not sure what it would be now.

However, the latest rumours are that if they are staying at the existing site (which they are still discussing), then it will be a full remodel of each stand, moving the pitch away from the Leazes terrace to free up some space for more capacity on that side. Essentially building a whole new stadium in situ.

Why don't they just move? If Newcastle is anything like Liverpool there must be any number of brownfield sites not that far away?

 

[Dublin blue 75]

Looks like we have finally started installing the panels and cladding on the side of the South stand exterior. Appears to co-ordinate with the barrel cladding too. So many little things getting finished off same time now, almost there.

 

[The Penalty Box Dancer]

I'm not sure what the easiest way to allocate season ticket holders us but I seen the word migration used and assumed it would be a case of picking everything up from goodison and overlaying it on BMD. Then each person would probably get an option of a similar seat to what they have and all the ones on the waiting list will pick up the remainder. Seems to be the easiest way of doing it, I couldn't imagine 53000 people all trying to get in for a viewing.

Has anyone else heard anything on the plan for this?

 

[bluespire]

People can’t have similar seats. Some of the seats at goodison are hospitality at BM. So it’s not possible .
Apparently it’s being done on how long you’ve had your season ticket for . Longest who’ve have had it get first dabs , and worked down like this .
Shareholders get first pick I read also

 

[The binman chronicles]

I'm not sure what the easiest way to allocate season ticket holders us but I seen the word migration used and assumed it would be a case of picking everything up from goodison and overlaying it on BMD. Then each person would probably get an option of a similar seat to what they have and all the ones on the waiting list will pick up the remainder. Seems to be the easiest way of doing it, I couldn't imagine 53000 people all trying to get in for a viewing.

Has anyone else heard anything on the plan for this?

All going to be done remotely, going by how long you've had a season ticket for, getting to choose in order.

 

[matty1878]

I'm not sure what the easiest way to allocate season ticket holders us but I seen the word migration used and assumed it would be a case of picking everything up from goodison and overlaying it on BMD. Then each person would probably get an option of a similar seat to what they have and all the ones on the waiting list will pick up the remainder. Seems to be the easiest way of doing it, I couldn't imagine 53000 people all trying to get in for a viewing.

Has anyone else heard anything on the plan for this?

have you upgraded us to 53,000
as i’ve moaned about the ground being to small?

cheers

 

[ultra]

Wonder if they will be doing any tours of the ground after January?

Would be easy money for the club and am sure demand would be high.