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New Everton Stadium

Why cant people just be happy that we have a brand new stadium that gives over 12000 more seats with un-obstructed views, at an incredible location. A huge fan plaza and stunning mezzanine.
I honestly believe that there are people/fans who simply wont be happy with anything.
The same people who will kick off over the name of the stadium rather than the naming rights money it will generate.
 
Why cant people just be happy that we have a brand new stadium that gives over 12000 more seats with un-obstructed views, at an incredible location. A huge fan plaza and stunning mezzanine.
I honestly believe that there are people/fans who simply wont be happy with anything.
The same people who will kick off over the name of the stadium rather than the naming rights money it will generate.
...and not one of them has set foot inside it nor even stood next to it, yet the cryarsing continues daily.
Only happy when they're miserable.
 

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Damo backing up his lover and having a pop at Dan MeisView attachment 279124View attachment 279125

To be honest I don't have a problem with what Damo said. It's how I feel too.

I think people get too sensitive over certain fans questioning "The Architect" as if it's some kind of sacrilege.

First of all people can have opinions. Different to Meis, different to The Esk, different to the club, different to mine even.

I think as someone else pointed out Meis will have been given his design brief from the club, It's all very well telling us about the last seats are the most expensive and big isn't necessarily better, size envy and stuff like that, but as some said he wouldn't be professing all this if it was Man Utd's new stadium
and they wanted a 100,000 but he's saying it should be less because the last seats are the most expensive nonsense.

I said before and I repeat it Everton have been living like a mid table club mid sized club for years so it's only to be expected they would build a mid-sized stadium.

By the way, that's not taking away any from the design, or the location. Although both are at a cost, at a premium. Granted.
 

Why cant people just be happy that we have a brand new stadium that gives over 12000 more seats with un-obstructed views, at an incredible location. A huge fan plaza and stunning mezzanine.
I honestly believe that there are people/fans who simply wont be happy with anything.
The same people who will kick off over the name of the stadium rather than the naming rights money it will generate.
Probably because other teams around us are looking to increase to 60k plus / or goading from Liverpool fans calling it a ‘small’ stadium . We are only about 8k below Anfield? beat them to the Euro 28 hosting as well. Do you think Anfield will still get gigs / events before Bramley Moore stadium? we will have far superior facilities and a fans plaza, how much can Anfield pack in more than Bramley Moore for gigs /events you reckon? . I wanted 60 k originally back in the design phase but can live with current capacity
 
I don't think it's either helpful nor harmful tbh, because as you say it has been resurrected by the prospective new owners themselves. It appears to be a potential issue on their radar, unless I've misread. Change of owner often produces a change of perspective.... sometimes even a diametrically opposed one. The fact that they appear to be getting the stadium for nowt (and/or the club for a song), might have shifted that financial envelope.

Capacity of any new stadium is often a contentious issue. I've read of similar arguments regards several new stadium proposals in Italy/USA/elsewhere. The perspective of the decision can also be framed in multiple ways to seemingly justify any chosen figure. I can remember Wyness happily declaring that the Loop site was inappropriate because...... the club needed a site that could be "future-proofed" for expansion to 70k+. That ambition appears to have gone out of the window. Conversely, Moshiri could've tried to do a Juventus. Chose a capacity of 40-44k. More than halved the construction costs, put 50% on the GA season ticket prices, trimming the season tkt numbers accordingly and still achieving 4-5k corporate, including 40-60 boxes. It would've been quite easy to make that "business case" for going small.... and just hyped up the quality of view/comfort/facilities etc.

I think that initially BMD was largely driven by the promise of the 2027 CWGs. There would've been several hundred Millions of pounds worth of funds allocated to that. Including several new high-value-adding infrastructure and neighbouring ancillary developments too. Durban's decision to withdraw from the last games, shifted that window of opportunity. BMD was then seen as too risky in terms of timelines etc and Brum got it. There was quite a long period of silence following that decision, then almost out of nowhere, 61,878 was no-more and the revised figure of 52,888 appeared, with all the usual ensuing arguments that after consideration, this was best "sweetspot" fit for our requirements etc. Tbh, I don't think Meis would've had any imput in that process other than to provide estimates for both sized options.... and even much of that process would've been largely supplied by local expertise.

62k was always highly aspirational, and imo was only ever a possibility with the additional CWG funding. The cost for almost 53k nearly saw us off. Killed off 777 in the process and has probably seen Moshiri taking the most expensive haircut in football club owning history. Maybe the resultant debt restructuring and the relative infrastructure-asset-rich position of our new owners will now make remodelling to 60k viable. Maybe they'll wait to see how well the demand holds up following the opening with the new price structuring.
A few people have stated TFG haven't said a word about this, but I think Meis involving himself in the conversation probably means there has been conversations about the capacity and he sounds touchy as hell over it.

My take on it is that they've probably used the issue - which is a non-issue now for the foreseeable - to underline their ambitions to supporters, knowing it wont coast them a cent in doing so.
 

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