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New Everton Stadium

The binman chronicles said:
Unless they install the safe standing rails, no one is standing up the whole game in the upper. Too much potential energy knocking around.

When we score (rare occurrence I know) it's common to have people coming down a few rows in the street end and that's just a shallow incline, now scale that to 34 degrees and they'll end up on the pitch...

In Munich, the Allianz has low level rails in the upper tier (well the bit I was in anyhow) and you would need those at least before trying to promote standing in the upper.
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People will stand and cheer for a goal regardless of where they’re sat / stood so either way the 34 degree incline is a hazard.

Just seems a shame for the number of fans standing to decrease at BMD when ideally it should be increasing. Feels like we’re missing a trick limiting ourselves to 5000 especially when they’re bigging up the whole ‘blue wall’ rhetoric.
 
Richie said:
People will stand and cheer for a goal regardless of where they’re sat / stood so either way the 34 degree incline is a hazard.

Just seems a shame for the number of fans standing to decrease at BMD when ideally it should be increasing. Feels like we’re missing a trick limiting ourselves to 5000 especially when they’re bigging up the whole ‘blue wall’ rhetoric.
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Of course they do, but if you've ever been in the TB you know why you wouldn't want the most let's say enthusiastic supporters standing all game. If they add the rails like Spurs did at the top of their home stand in a similar place at BM, then you make that an option to increase the numbers. I can't ever see them making the whole South standing though.
 

The binman chronicles said:
Of course they do, but if you've ever been in the TB you know why you wouldn't want the most let's say enthusiastic supporters standing all game. If they add the rails like Spurs did at the top of their home stand in a similar place at BM, then you make that an option to increase the numbers. I can't ever see them making the whole South standing though.
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For clarification, when I referred to standing in the TB, I didn't mean continuously. Even in the likes of the Bullens (in my experience) some people stand up when we get a break away etc. In the TB, due to the angle of the seats, it's not necessary and dangerous. It will be the same in all parts of the new stadium.
 

Tom Hughes said:
But what if we're already at, or near our price ceiling, and all the available juice has already been squeezed? We will also have a 33% increase in capacity to fill at BMD. Increased supply AND increased prices can be awkward to pull off, although I realise footy doesn't always obey the basic economic laws of supply and demand. I think they need to be careful, because waiting lists built on a restricted capacity and low ticket prices at GP, may quickly evaporate if they push that pricing-envelope too far.

I remember reading an article about us having 31k season ticket holders and a roughly similar number on the waiting list a few weeks ago, with the writer claiming 53k was far too small etc. Only a day or two later we played Southampton in the League Cup (possibly the last ever cup game at GP), and there were only 33k there, after they'd raised the tkt price to £25, just a £5 increase on the previous round. Yes, midweek league cup games, for a team in poor form, are not necessarily the best barometer of demand. However 5k+ empty seats might suggest that claims of a collective demand of 60k+, might be more fragile than merely stating waiting list stats.
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The price increase for STs won't be that excessive at first; the price increase for members/general sale will be heftier, however.

Whether we like it or not, the increase in capacity alone will not pay for the stadium and provide the additional financial leeway we all desire to help us succeed.
 
PhilM said:
The price increase for STs won't be that excessive at first; the price increase for members/general sale will be heftier, however.
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I think that might be right. One thing, I would say is that any suggestion that the price of season tickets and tickets will be influenced by what that crowd pay over the park is for the birds. We are a totally different fan base. We do not have an endless conveyor belt of fans who will cough up an ever increasing ridiculous amount of money, the way they do.
 
Dr Baxter said:
I think that might be right. One thing, I would say is that any suggestion that the price of season tickets and tickets will be influenced by what that crowd pay over the park is for the birds. We are a totally different fan base. We do not have an endless conveyor belt of fans who will cough up an ever increasing ridiculous amount of money, the way they do.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the ST prices raise by an average of £100-£150 - some will be more based on position. Single match day tickets will be closer to £70.
 

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