New Everton Stadium

[Tom Hughes]

When I've visited the stadium I always get the bus along Scotland Road, get off at Athol Street and walk down Boundary street . Great view of the stadium and not very far, plus there always seems to be plenty of buses going along Scottie. The walk is downhill and easily done for me a 72yr old.

Yes, Scotland Rd is the other major well served access point, and it is a pleasant walk when you've chosen a nice day to visit the build. But at just over 1 mile, it's not exactly convenient, especially if it's pouring down and/or if you have kids in tow, or are slightly less mobile. Plus of course, if it's downhill going, that also means it's uphill coming back.

No-one is saying that these distances aren't walkable for the vast majority, but that they are significantly larger than at GP and might be large enough to deter too many from leaving their cars at home, and not achieving the required public/private transport ratio. That way, we end up with gridlocked roads, and then we all suffer.

 

[Dr Baxter]

Won't they just put on buses on matchdays until a permanent solution is in place? Doesn't sound very difficult to me unless I am missing something

I totally agree. As I've said Soccerbuses and lots of them from various points in the city centre is the obvious solution. I just hope we don't get short changed. It has to be right from the first game.

 

[GoldenToffee]

There will obviously be transport links sorted, I don't know why people are even questioning it. Dozens of buses from the city directly to the ground I reckon. The club isn't going to force 50,000 fans to walk 30 minutes to the stadium.

 

[Cow kecks]

Yes, Scotland Rd is the other major well served access point, and it is a pleasant walk when you've chosen a nice day to visit the build. But at just over 1 mile, it's not exactly convenient, especially if it's pouring down and/or if you have kids in tow, or are slightly less mobile. Plus of course, if it's downhill going, that also means it's uphill coming back.

No-one is saying that these distances aren't walkable for the vast majority, but that they are significantly larger than at GP and might be large enough to deter too many from leaving their cars at home, and not achieving the required public/private transport ratio. That way, we end up with gridlocked roads, and then we all suffer.

Far easier for me than getting to Goodison, often have to walk lower breck and priory road. When I've visited the stadium I always walk back to town, couple of good cafe's on Great Howard Street. As for as you say being a mile I live in Huyton and a signpost saying 1 mile to Huyton village, definitely a much longer walk than going down Boundary street!

 

[Tom Hughes]

There will obviously be transport links sorted, I don't know why people are even questioning it. Dozens of buses from the city directly to the ground I reckon. The club isn't going to force 50,000 fans to walk 30 minutes to the stadium.

I haven't read it for a while, but according to the transport plan, I think there are 20 shuttle buses serving town. Obviously, after the match is the real pinch point. They are only scheduled to do 2 trips, so that is approx 3500 passengers in roughly the first hr afterwards into town via shuttle bus.

 

[GoldenToffee]

I haven't read it for a while, but according to the transport plan, I think there are 20 shuttle buses serving town. Obviously, after the match is the real pinch point. They are only scheduled to do 2 trips, so that is approx 3500 passengers in roughly the first hr afterwards into town via shuttle bus.

At the end of the day not everybody is coming directly from town needing a shuttle bus. A small percentage will be parking as close to the stadium as possible, a fair few will come from Sandhills train station, a large number of fans will have no issues at all walking from town and having some drinks along the way. That's already narrowed the number down significantly. Yes on the way back may be a greater issue, but I think if the club sees that the number of buses they've made available isn't sufficient then they'll have no choice but to increase the number.

 

[Tom Hughes]

Far easier for me than getting to Goodison, often have to walk lower breck and priory road. When I've visited the stadium I always walk back to town, couple of good cafe's on Great Howard Street. As for as you say being a mile I live in Huyton and a signpost saying 1 mile to Huyton village, definitely a much longer walk than going down Boundary street!

I'm not sure how it can be far easier via public transport for you. Those same buses stop much closer to GP than Scotland Rd is to BMD and there are more of them.

I just used used Google maps for the distance. It says it is 1.8km from the Crown Vaults to Bramley Moore pub. That's just over 1 mile.

 

[Cow kecks]

Yes, Scotland Rd is the other major well served access point, and it is a pleasant walk when you've chosen a nice day to visit the build. But at just over 1 mile, it's not exactly convenient, especially if it's pouring down and/or if you have kids in tow, or are slightly less mobile. Plus of course, if it's downhill going, that also means it's uphill coming back.

No-one is saying that these distances aren't walkable for the vast majority, but that they are significantly larger than at GP and might be large enough to deter too many from leaving their cars at home, and not achieving the required public/private transport ratio. That way, we end up with gridlocked roads, and then we all suffer.

No longer than Queens drive or Priory Road, I'm originally from down by the stadium and know that area very well. Always found it quite easy to get to. Even walking from town via Vauxhall road there are shortcuts through the Eldonian village, one of which brings you out in Barmouth way, a stones throw from the stadium.

 

[SLAVEN BILIC]

Easiest way to solve this issue about transport is to have the club rehouse everyone in the Kirkdale/Vauxhall area and give us all golf buggies. Job’s a good‘un

 

[Cow kecks]

I'm not sure how it can be far easier via public transport for you. Those same buses stop much closer to GP than Scotland Rd is to BMD and there are more of them.

I just used used Google maps for the distance. It says it is 1.8km from the Crown Vaults to Bramley Moore pub. That's just over 1 mile.

I live a half a mile away from the 1 mile sign to Huyton, takes me 20 minutes to walk, no great deal, and I walk at a 72 Yr old pace.

 

[Dr Baxter]

When I've visited the stadium I always get the bus along Scotland Road, get off at Athol Street and walk down Boundary street . Great view of the stadium and not very far, plus there always seems to be plenty of buses going along Scottie. The walk is downhill and easily done for me a 72yr old.

I take that route myself to see our new place going up. Easily done, but not something I'd fancy in bad weather. There again why should you have to walk in the first place? There should be a line of free shuttle buses parked up on Boundary St, between Stanley Road and Scotland Road facing downhill towards the stadium, at the triangle known locally as the Rotunda.

It would be ideal for anyone getting off any service route which goes along Scotland Road, Stanley Road and Great Homer Street in and out of the city centre. I counted once and there were literally dozens of bus routes around that area. Handy for anyone travelling from the north or north east AND anyone coming from the city centre.

 

[degsy]

Won't they just put on buses on matchdays until a permanent solution is in place? Doesn't sound very difficult to me unless I am missing something

We'll find out on the day, bound to be teething troubles and adjustments required, always is.

 

[Tom Hughes]

At the end of the day not everybody is coming directly from town needing a shuttle bus. A small percentage will be parking as close to the stadium as possible, a fair few will come from Sandhills train station, a large number of fans will have no issues at all walking from town and having some drinks along the way. That's already narrowed the number down significantly. Yes on the way back may be a greater issue, but I think if the club sees that the number of buses they've made available isn't sufficient then they'll have no choice but to increase the number.

The transport plan has had to take into account the availability of buses/drivers aswell as the road space to accommodate them. It's a balancing act, there is only a small amount of buses to fill the gap and too many cars will gridlock the limited access road space that there is. Soccerbus doesn't adequately cover the needs of GP or Anfield now, but it has not even been increased for their larger capacity.

That is why the plan clearly states that this site requires a reversal of the current 60:40 split. Which suggests that approx 31k+ will need to use public transport or walk, or conversely that they estimate that the site can only support approx 20k via car. Currently there us nowhere near that capacity serving the site or within a 1 mile walking distance.

 

[Cow kecks]

I take that route myself to see our new place going up. Easily done, but not something I'd fancy in bad weather. There again why should you have to walk in the first place? There should be a line of free shuttle buses parked up on Boundary St, between Stanley Road and Scotland Road facing downhill towards the stadium, at the triangle known locally as the Rotunda.

It would be ideal for anyone getting off any service route which goes along Scotland Road, Stanley Road and Great Homer Street in and out of the city centre. I counted once and there were literally dozens of bus routes around that area. Handy for anyone travelling from the north or north east AND anyone coming from the city centre.

Will be going to Bramley moore by car with my son and grandson, I've got a cousin who lives on the Eldonians so our parking is well and truly sorted.

 

[WelshBlue92]

Clearly the best solution for transporting fans to the stadium is to bring back the 'Ovee'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_Overhead_Railway