New Everton Stadium

[RomanReigns]

How will they do the name reveal? If it’s Toyota for example, will they pop a balloon and then a bunch of mini Toyotas come out or something

 

[Bedfordblue]

Matty's words stumble,
Sentences twist in the breeze,
Grammar lost in fog.

 

[Tim UpperBullen]

I'm afraid that this argument that "they can't be questioned because they're LOR", or "they are mathematical genuises" holds little or no water (if you'll pardon the pun). Just as it didn't
when people asked if KEIOC knew more than Terry Leahy and other assorted "experts" etc. For the most part, their qualifications in maths will be no higher than mine..... I'm not sure why my CV is always questioned, but I have actually taught/mentored Engineering maths to Mechanical/Structural Engineering undergraduates and Merchant Navy Officer cadets for decades, as part of my job....

However, again, this has nothing to do with the simple observation and scientific fact that.... rain doesn't always fall vertically, and consequently, it is good practice to have the front edge of a stadium roof as low as possible and/or as far in-field of the front row, as is practicable. This is covered in all stadium design guides/books.

The soak pattern is entirely predictable. Varying levels of partial protection are offered for anything upto 45° off the verical, with very poor protection at anything less than 15° from that line. If it goes well beyond the first few rows, to the extent that even some in the posh seats get an occasional soaking, then that is a design flaw.

The SoFi Stadium is not in the desert, it is in downtown Los Angeles. It is a direct response to this issue. There are several other fully covered stadia under construction or being planned, and as I said, Man Utd are also considering it. Our stadium is of the same generation, and should encompass the same lessons learnt. Bilbao had a similar problem for their waterfront stadium and have had to retrofit an inner roof to solve the problem. I asked the LOR engineer about it at the shareholders consultation a couple of years ago, he had no other response than it was a stadium and some people get wet, pass the poncho.

I went to Spurs earlier in the season and thousands were getting rained on. Surely the job of a roof is to keep fans dry and anyone who continually gets wet at BMD is not going think it is a great design

 

[allen]

How will they do the name reveal? If it’s Toyota for example, will they pop a balloon and then a bunch of mini Toyotas come out or something

Like that, but Texas-sized.

Dan is going to fly a C17 Globemaster over the stadium, open the cargo ramp and shower it with brand new Yarises and Corollas.

 

[Tim UpperBullen]

Lots walk, many drive and a significant percentage use public transport, including regular bus routes. There are no regular bus routes that go near the new stadium (or very few). That's why I am anxious to see what the plans are for extra trains and Soccerbuses. We will find out soon, I guess. I hope they are decent because not everyone wants to walk for a mile and a half from the city centre, not everyone is capable of doing so and even those who will do it with no fuss in decent weather, won't want to walk it in the cold and driving rain.

The problem is not how people get to the ground as the club envisage fans arriving at the ground over a couple of hours, but more 53k leaving the ground at the same time, particularly on a night match

 

[brieverton]

Be particularly interesting to see their plans for the plaza.

If it's all snazzy and razzmatazz I wonder if that will include things like beam lighting and big screens, but I guess that is mostly precluded by the heritage restrictions, or does that apply to fixed/permanent structures only?

The whole area looks great as it is, but with the Everton customisation to come, more appropriate barrel-cladding lighting (hopefully) and whatever TFG may choose to add, it should look simply magnificent, particularly at night.

 

[Victus]

I do worry how plastic this will all feel with Americans in charge with their million sponsors everywhere. Not a fan really but we do need to sell our soul to compete I suppose.

 

[bernie inn]

Melbourne has a very centralised sporting infrastructure though, doesn’t it? It’s easier to have good links when you’re serving this many venues in one go.

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I was talking in particular about Flemington racecourse that is outside the cit. the central part MCG etc is generally served by trams and walking

 

[Dr Baxter]

That’s a big difference though.
Fans coming from Ormskirk are unaffected
Fans coming from Southport etc now find it far easier and possibly will use trains for first time. Fans coming from city have 50% increase in train capacity.

That's true. I hope Merseyrail put on extra/longer trains. It will be very, busy on a Saturday afternoon with shoppers going into and out of town. Also there is a finite number Sandhills can deal with in an hour. That is another reason we need a new station for Ten Streets. I am keen to see what specific plans there are all forms of public transport. So far they are very vague.

If that makes me a headbanger, fine

 

[Neiler]

 

[Dr Baxter]

That’s a big difference though.
Fans coming from Ormskirk are unaffected
Fans coming from Southport etc now find it far easier and possibly will use trains for first time. Fans coming from city have 50% increase in train capacity.

That's true. I hope Merseyrail put on extra/longer trains. It will be very, busy on a Saturday afternoon with shoppers going into and out of town. Also there is a finite number Sandhills can deal with in an hour. That is another reason we need a new station for Ten Streets. I am keen to see what specific plans there are all forms of public transport. So far they are very vague..

If that makes me a headbanger, fine

What's difficult to follow is you claiming it's a difficult area to get to. It's a short walk from town and they will have more soccer busses. Stop being a fanny and just relax.

Where will the Soccerbuses be from? How many? How long before and after the game? If they get it right. Fine. It is doable. Do it half arsed and box ticking, then poor. The devil is in the detail.We don't know that detail, yet

That's the reason I post on public transport. We still don't know much. We know the location, capacity, steepness of stands, how many season ticket holders, the prices and those discussions have taken place on these pages. Now it's the turn of the "how are we going to get there?" discussion. It's an important topic. And no matter how many people insist on here, 53,000 people don't want to walk from the city centre

 

[Ragnar]

it's not right by Sandhills station at all. It's not too far, I grant you. What if you don't live anywhere near a train station at the other end? How many people can Sandhills shift in a short timeframe before and after a game? We have to hope that there are extra trains laid on, as there were yesterday for the meeting at Aintree and the other crowd at home last night. That's all I'm saying.

Yes it is. It’s literally a few mins away. Bloody ell lad how close do you want to be. If you can’t get there don’t go

 

[14_dollars]

Superb that, well done to all involved.

It’s a shame that a small minority of tiresome bulbs are trying to create a distraction because they are worried about:
1. Walking
2. The rain

Things that human beings have been used to for at least 5 million years.

 

[Dr Baxter]

The problem is not how people get to the ground as the club envisage fans arriving at the ground over a couple of hours, but more 53k leaving the ground at the same time, particularly on a night match

Night match more so than Saturday game, for sure. The fact that a lot of people will stay behind after a game (as the club has confirmed the bars will still be open for an hour or so) means it won't be quite as bad as first feared.

 

[Dr Baxter]

Yes it is. It’s literally a few mins away. Bloody ell lad how close do you want to be. If you can’t get there don’t go

What about if you don't live near a train station at the other end? A huge number of people locally don't. There are huge parts of Liverpool where you're miles from a train station.