New Everton Stadium

[DerbyshireAndHarper]

dya have a picture of the area on the docks we're looking at? i'm awful with geography

The dock with water underneath Bramley Moore Dock on the map is Nelson Dock. There's been no talk about acquiring that, but if they wish to widen the footprint, it's possible that could be acquired too. Directly beneath Nelson Dock, just missed off on the map is the Victoria Tower, and it was rumoured we would be using the land up to Victoria Tower for car/coach parking and amenities such as purpose built fan zone similar to what Man City have outside the Etitihad.

Clearly the roads to the right of Bramley Moore Dock would have to be improved. There's a certain amount of businesses that would have to be bought out and moved, so that more land can be acquired.

 

[ically]

It is far more advanced than Anderson is saying, if it is someone with strong Liverpool connections then you can name your source?

I'm too old in the tooth to bluff mate and what good would it do to name names on here,
He's been involved with local politics for a long while and has dealings with the club,
So basically has a foot in both camps.

 

[KUEFC09U2]

I'm too old in the tooth to bluff mate and what good would it do to name names on here,
He's been involved with local politics for a long while and has dealings with the club,
So basically has a foot in both camps.

Well i trust the person who told me this is far more advanced than people think

 

[windymiller]

For the people who are determined to be Debbie Downers, consider this.

It hasn't 'gone quiet', because the national press are currently being briefed about how much the land will cost.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/09/goodison-park-replacement-everton-30m-?

And Andy Hunter is on a par with Paul Joyce for being reliable journos when it comes to Everton news.

Something is clearly happening behind the scenes.

A new stadium of suitable quality for us will cost circa £200m-£300m. It takes time to put various funding packages and loans into place, to purchase land, to negotiate with LCC the various enabling works required. To agree on how the roads surrounding the ground will be upgraded, looking at transportation issues, completing feasibility studies, looking at how draining the dock and filling it in will work. Then there's the surrounding areas, the affected businesses, the accompanying projects and how they will fit in with a new stadium in such a place. Even if we have the land secured, we can't just plonk a stadium in the middle of it, thought needs to be given to regeneration in the surrounding area.

This takes a long time. Moshiri has been in a position of power for 7 months. A dock stadium has only been a tangible possibility ever since he came on board. It takes a long time to sort stuff out.

Stamping your feet because LFC are opening a New Stand (that took them 2 years to build and also 14 years before that to complete compulsory purchase orders of the surrounding land) and you feel left out, and using current perceived 'inertia' as a sign nothing will happen is foolish in the extreme. Yeah, we've been burnt in the past and let down, but if things are to change, they don't just instantly change, and they certainly don't instantly change 7 months after someone has arrived when it comes to something like a £300m stadium in a desirable yet complicated waterside location.

So yeah, maybe a bit of patience is in order, even if you have your doubts. All we have had thus far is positive noises from several key people. That's a good start and better than nothing at all.

All of this is true. But, once again, our community of "ITKs" made the proclamation that we had already purchased the dock so to find out we are currently haggling with Peel, whilst considering the abomination of a site that SC would be, is disappointing. After this summer though I think this is something we will have to get used to.

 

[ToffeeTim]

The level to which Hunter has been briefed will be the level that the club want him briefed to. It's obviously not confirmed so they haven't allowed him to go into further detail.

 

[DownOnTheUpside]

The dock with water underneath Bramley Moore Dock on the map is Nelson Dock. There's been no talk about acquiring that, but if they wish to widen the footprint, it's possible that could be acquired too. Directly beneath Nelson Dock, just missed off on the map is the Victoria Tower, and it was rumoured we would be using the land up to Victoria Tower for car/coach parking and amenities such as purpose built fan zone similar to what Man City have outside the Etitihad.

Clearly the roads to the right of Bramley Moore Dock would have to be improved. There's a certain amount of businesses that would have to be bought out and moved, so that more land can be acquired.

Ahh so its more sandhills than town?

 

[ically]

Well i trust the person who told me this is far more advanced than people think

Fair enough mate,

Hopefully the endgame has the same result everyone wants,I think we're all on the same side on this like.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I fully expect the stonebridge site. This is everton and Kenwright is still involved and we are still having to sell to buy.

This is media arse covering in its worst. Keep leaking stuff to show how hard we were trying to the media, and then cry victim when it goes tits up.

 

[DownOnTheUpside]

if it's by the tai pan though something would have to be done about the smell around there

it's absolutely rank

 

[windymiller]

As much as I like Andy Hunter of the Guardian he is behind the curve on this one.

So, to the best of your understanding, have we bought the BM site or not?

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

All of this is true. But, once again, our community of "ITKs" made the proclamation that we had already purchased the dock so to find out we are currently haggling with Peel, whilst considering the abomination of a site that SC would be, is disappointing. After this summer though I think this is something we will have to get used to.

Good point mate, that's why I don't believe what anyone says until it actually happens.

 

[KUEFC09U2]

All of this is true. But, once again, our community of "ITKs" made the proclamation that we had already purchased the dock so to find out we are currently haggling with Peel, whilst considering the abomination of a site that SC would be, is disappointing. After this summer though I think this is something we will have to get used to.

Who says we are still haggling with peel? Oh yes the papers because they are always right upto date with news, land has been purchased

 

[degsy]

So having had a brief catch up on events:

The Docks will cost 30m for the land or we could build on Stone bridge Cross for free.

So that's an iconic location which could potentially be the the envy of the league on one of the most picturesque locations... or a stadium and Moussa Sissoko.

I know which I would choose.

and add in a portion of the Council (probably rs's) trying to derail the docks by getting us dragged in to the Commonwealth games shight, which would eventually...very eventually, end up with us in a WHU type stadium complete with manky running track.

 

[Paul Dean]

I've heard Mata and Witsel are announcing it

 

[windymiller]

Who says we are still haggling with peel? Oh yes the papers because they are always right upto date with news, land has been purchased

I have no idea either way, that is what I am seeking clarity on. I have no reason to believe Hunter over our "ITKs", but I also have little reason to believe our " ITKs" over Hunter either. No one has an unblemished record this summer.