Jreverton1
Player Valuation: £15m
No problem
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CDTENERIFE
Player Valuation: £100k
A stadium will have to go through vigorous planning consultation, then permission, the club might well have an agreement to buy the dock/docks, but any purchase will be subject to obtaining outline planning permission. Therefore any announcement will be after that outline permission is obtained.
Imagine the fume, if like the old regime would have done, they announced an all singing and dancing world class stadium 'On the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey' then it all fell through when planning permission was refused.
Once outline planning permission is obtained we will get our announcement, then it'll be about stadium design, placating heritage objectors, mainly RS I'd guess, etc etc
A magnificently designed stadium with a roof in the shape of our badge, illuminated at night so everyone flying into Manchester and the country sees us, what a statement!
I dread a flat pack 'The Bill Kenright Stadium' at Stonebridge Cross....But I'd still go!
Come on Everton make this happen!!
Imagine the fume, if like the old regime would have done, they announced an all singing and dancing world class stadium 'On the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey' then it all fell through when planning permission was refused.
Once outline planning permission is obtained we will get our announcement, then it'll be about stadium design, placating heritage objectors, mainly RS I'd guess, etc etc
A magnificently designed stadium with a roof in the shape of our badge, illuminated at night so everyone flying into Manchester and the country sees us, what a statement!
I dread a flat pack 'The Bill Kenright Stadium' at Stonebridge Cross....But I'd still go!
Come on Everton make this happen!!
Socrates
Player Valuation: £6m
There seems to be some confusion here.
The land has been secured, not bought.
There are 2 common means of securing real estate like this.
The first is by way of a lease option. The buyer pays the owner a nominal sum to take control of the site for a set period of say, 2 years with an option to buy the site for an agreed sum. £30m seems to be the figure agreed.
The lessee then has the time to gain planning permission, secure access and infrastructure and organise funding.
The second way is by way of a conditional exchange.
Contracts are exchanged and completion will take place once the relevant planning, infrastructure and funding are in place as above.
I am not privy to which method is being used but either way, it won't show on Land Registry as Peel are still the owners but Everton have control.
I hope this clears thing up for some people out there.
The land has been secured, not bought.
There are 2 common means of securing real estate like this.
The first is by way of a lease option. The buyer pays the owner a nominal sum to take control of the site for a set period of say, 2 years with an option to buy the site for an agreed sum. £30m seems to be the figure agreed.
The lessee then has the time to gain planning permission, secure access and infrastructure and organise funding.
The second way is by way of a conditional exchange.
Contracts are exchanged and completion will take place once the relevant planning, infrastructure and funding are in place as above.
I am not privy to which method is being used but either way, it won't show on Land Registry as Peel are still the owners but Everton have control.
I hope this clears thing up for some people out there.
ToffeeDoug
Player Valuation: £35m
If we have bought the land, as widely suggested, why would we delay in announcing this? What has to happen after a purchase that would delay the announcement. Or is it, instead, an agreement to purchase the land, and due diligence checks are being conducted by EFC? If passed, we them proceed to purchase the land at an agreed price?
DerbyshireAndHarper
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Hardly anything was in place for DK. We didn't own the land for starters. DK was a farce from start to finish.
The fact things are being done differently to DK is a massive positive not a negative or something to worry about.
DerbyshireAndHarper
Player Valuation: £2.5m
You answered your own question - it's very likely an agreement in place, dependent on the feasibility of other things coming to fruition.
As mentioned in other multiple posts, it's not just the land - the land is no good on it's own without the accompanying local infrastructure such as the surrounding roads etc.
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Personally I am not in a rush to hear news on this, reason being we know stuff is going on, if it was SC it seems like a easier option to get done, so if there was a announcement now it would more likely be that, the one we don't want. If it takes longer it means there is a lot more work to be done in planning, not just the stadium itself but the surrounding area, Everton and Peel have to make sure all objections are covered, unlike Kirkby where it was easy for objections, and King Docks which was amateur hour from day one.
They can take until the end of the year as far as i am concerned, as long as the result is the docks, because as soon as they announce it there will be groups of people who try to block it, Peel and Everton have to make sure they are one step ahead, and that will take time.
They can take until the end of the year as far as i am concerned, as long as the result is the docks, because as soon as they announce it there will be groups of people who try to block it, Peel and Everton have to make sure they are one step ahead, and that will take time.
Dario Terracotta
Player Valuation: £70m
Yeah I'm a bit dubious that the Rotherham fella is the new "Metro Mayor"he's a big RS,call me cynical but they will put any obstacles they can possibly think of to prevent this happening as it will firmly put their noses out of joint.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
IIRC there was leaked material showing a longstanding series of meetings and agreement between KBC, EFC and Tesco (including the £50M land giveaway by Knowsley) well before DK was formally announced.
Moshiri has had skin in this game way before taking formal ownership of almost 50% of shares, that much was revealed after his announcement as de facto owner. Ample time has been available to craft a deliverable scheme. With the apparent securing of land, I just dont know what the hold up is...unless it's all just talks about talks and valuations being placed on land in order to expedite agreements further down the line.
It all seems very vague and intangible to me. Any Evertonian reading the runes will be coming to a very familiar conclusion.
Hope I'm wrong, but I'm highly skeptical this is anything other than continuing dialogue that'll be kicked into the long grass again.
CDTENERIFE
Player Valuation: £100k
Providing an agreement in principle is in place then it won't be kicked into the long grass unless LCC deem it as an unacceptable development.
My gut feeling is that this is on. I hope I'm not proved wrong. We need a statement stadium, on let's agree, is one of the most iconic skylines in the world
Do it Everton!
My gut feeling is that this is on. I hope I'm not proved wrong. We need a statement stadium, on let's agree, is one of the most iconic skylines in the world
Do it Everton!
Magus
Player Valuation: £8m
My understanding of an Enterprise Zone is that it already benefits from outline consent for a range of generic uses. It could be argued that a new stadium fits in broadly with recreational and commercial leisure use.
I would expect the club to go for full planning consent, but as you say there will need to be extensive consultation, so we will find out soon enough.
We'veGotTonyHibbert!
Player Valuation: £750k
I'm an Evertonian that so happens to use this forum. My mate is a property developer. We had a pint like we regularly do. He got to telling me about the luxury apartment complex he bought land for and is planning G to build and sell and mentioned Everton had also bought 30 million worth of land. It's not a big conspiracy mate, just fellow blues passing on information. If its wrong then my mates a liar, which I doubt very much but sure we'll all soon see, in the mean time keep the tin foil hat on sure. If it turns out to be in Stone bridge or somewhere else then you can start a witch hunt on me and I'll laugh at you, lots.
windymiller
Player Valuation: £60m
Mr Esk, I am really confused. Have we secured Bramley dock or not?
windymiller
Player Valuation: £60m
Occam's razor tells us we have not bought the land.
