New Everton Stadium

[orly]

Bit cheap for a stadium that mate.

We're calling it the Seamus Coleman Stadium, but renaming the land Peter Reid Dock

 

[Goat]

I saw a talk done by the guy once, that's certainly him. Can't see why someone would go to the bother of making a fake twitter anyway

Somebody went to the trouble of pretending to be him for the last 4 years just for this very moment.

Unreal.

 

[Jacko93]

Somebody went to the trouble of pretending to be him for the last 4 years just for this very moment.

Unreal.

It's my greatest work.

 

[ggooggooggoo]

First club to offer parking for Watercraft?

 

[maccavennie]

We're calling it the Seamus Coleman Stadium, but renaming the land Peter Reid Dock

I like it mate, something like "60 grand 60 grand lower bullens, 60 grand 60 grand I say. 60 grand 60 grand unobstructed - views is the new Everton way"

A couple of pints of piss erm I mean Chang and that last line just rolls off the tongue

 

[mill]

45k wouldn't be enough now never mind in the future. We will sell out the first 4 games and that's with palace sending the upper bullens back. I'd imagine we will sell out at least 10 this season.

You've also got to remember that if we increased to 45k at least 2/3k of those would be hospitality so you're only increasing the actual general admission seats by around 2 thousand.

50k is the bare minimum with 55k being the optimum imo.

Building a brand new stadium that sells out regularly is a disaster when there is scope for more sales.

Always better to go 5k too big than 5k too small from a financial point of view.

Depends a bit on whether you care more about the atmosphere and the footy or money.

I hate seeing empty seats in a stadium.

Would prefer a 45k seater and a close to sell out every game.

 

[Jacko93]

Depends a bit on whether you care more about the atmosphere and the footy or money.

I hate seeing empty seats in a stadium.

Would prefer a 45k seater and a close to sell out every game.

They're putting in a huge amount of work to increase the visibility of Everton and through that, the fan base. Why would we limit ourselves from the get go?

I think it actually comes down to two different factors. Are you happy as we are, or do you want to progress? In fact, even so simple a question as, do you think we can progress?

 

[The Cowboy]

First club to offer parking for Watercraft?

Why not? Create a marina alongside for all the superyachts that will be heading our way.

 

[Zaschrona]

Depends a bit on whether you care more about the atmosphere and the footy or money.

I hate seeing empty seats in a stadium.

Would prefer a 45k seater and a close to sell out every game.

The atmosphere is more dependant on the architecture of the stadium than actuall fullness of the stadium.

http://www.businessinsider.com/seattle-seahawks-stadium-loud-2014-1

 

[The Cowboy]

Depends a bit on whether you care more about the atmosphere and the footy or money.

I hate seeing empty seats in a stadium.

Would prefer a 45k seater and a close to sell out every game.

Wonder if there are any radical options out there which can change the capacity between 45k and 60k according to demand? Would be great to be able to be flexible with capacity whilst maintaining atmosphere.

 

[Jacko93]

Why not? Create a marina alongside for all the superyachts that will be heading our way.

Or use the space in Nelson that is already there.

There will be a transatlantic cruise liner terminal there soon enough. Imagine the ground being our statue or liberty in terms of iconic river entrance vista's.

 

[BNJ1878]

They're putting in a huge amount of work to increase the visibility of Everton and through that, the fan base. Why would we limit ourselves from the get go?

I think it actually comes down to two different factors. Are you happy as we are, or do you want to progress? In fact, even so simple a question as, do you think we can progress?

Pretty confident new ground will be 60'000 (or bigger) at opening, as you say, easy expansion later on when needed. (It will be!)

 

[R934]

Wonder if there are any radical options out there which can change the capacity between 45k and 60k according to demand? Would be great to be able to be flexible with capacity whilst maintaining atmosphere.

Watch if you haven't already

 

[Goat]

Depends a bit on whether you care more about the atmosphere and the footy or money.

I hate seeing empty seats in a stadium.

Would prefer a 45k seater and a close to sell out every game.

Think 45k is a little on the low side.

50k should be the utter min, we would sell out a 50k for the majority of the games, a few we would struggle and most cup games of course would be much lower. Success on the pitch would clearly drive ticket sales and personally if it was up to me I would be looking at 55k for a starting point, clearly some games we could easily get more in, but its a fine line between juggling demand for 1 or 2 games a season over the other 20 or so.

 

[brieverton]

Depends a bit on whether you care more about the atmosphere and the footy or money.

I hate seeing empty seats in a stadium.

Would prefer a 45k seater and a close to sell out every game.

I tend to agree, in addition to the modernity and design of the stadium, the most important thing is atmosphere and we want to make it as intense and intimidating as possible and have the crowd packed in, as close on all sides to the pitch as possible, in the traditional English manner.

In general I think, for each 5k increase in capacity above 50k, you probably lose a degree of that atmosphere and intensity. I like The Emirates as a stadium, but I certainly wouldn't class it as intimidating, and as one of the modern stadia, its nothing special IMHO. We have a real opportunity here to do something unique and iconic, learning from the other clubs and avoiding their formulaic designs. I assume that costs additional money though, and the priority is getting this built and functional.

I don't think they will go as "low" as 45,000 but 50,000-52,000 with capacity for more in the future is where I would see it, just to cover our bases for maximisation of revenue and flexibility.

I know nothing about stadium design and construction, but you would think in this day and age that its feasible to come up with a design that allows for closure of upper-tier seating in such a way that empty seats are not as noticeable, and/or can be sealed off as it were from the rest of the ground by means of shifting stand covers (i.e. up and down)? There is a much less sophisticated model of this in the MLS for Vancouver Whitecaps - I don't know the stadium name but they attempt, rather crudely, to cover off the top/upper-tier seating with tarpaulin, to give the impression of full capacity. I wonder can a more aesthetic solution be engineered into the initial design much like the basic concept that is applied to retractable roofing?