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Dylan

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Now, I am not normally the one to post shocking news, somebody else normally beats me to it, but I got one:

BLOODY HELL!!!! This one is right out of a horror movie script!!! Dude just decides to kill the guy sitting next to him on the Greyhound bus, then behead him and start eating him!!!!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080801/ap_on_re_ca/canada_bus_stabbing_8
PORTAGE LA PRAIRIE, Manitoba - A traveler aboard a Greyhound bus repeatedly stabbed and then decapitated his seat mate, pausing during the savage attack in central Canada to display the head to passengers who had fled in horror, witnesses and officials said Thursday.

A 40-year-old man was arrested after the grisly slaying late Wednesday night aboard a bus en route from Edmonton, Alberta, to Winnipeg, Manitoba, Royal Canadian Mounted Police Sgt. Steve Colwell told reporters.


Police apprehended the suspect early Thursday as he tried to escape from the bus about three hours after the attack, Colwell said.
Authorities said a motive had not been determined. They declined to identify the suspect or the victim, and provided few details about the attack.


But passenger Garnet Caton said the victim, who appeared to be about 19, was sleeping with headphones on when his seat mate suddenly began stabbing him as the bus traveled a desolate stretch of the TransCanada Highway, a dozen miles from Portage La Prairie.
Caton, sitting just one seat in front of the two men, said he heard no exchanges between them prior to the violence.
"We heard this bloodcurdling scream and turned around, and the guy was standing up, stabbing this guy repeatedly, like 40 or 50 times," Caton said from a hotel in Brandon, Manitoba, where he and other horrified passengers were taken.


Caton said the driver stopped the bus when he became aware of the savagery going on aboard and passengers scrambled off. He said the suspect appeared to be methodically cutting into the victim's body.


"When he was attacking him, he was calm ... like he was at the beach," said Caton. "There was no rage or, or anything. He was just like a robot stabbing the guy."


The bus driver, Caton and a trucker at the scene re-boarded to see what was happening.


Caton said he saw the suspect had the victim on the floor of the bus and "was cutting his head off and pretty much gutting him" with a large hunting knife.


The attacker turned toward them and the three men quickly left the bus, blocking the door as the attacker slashed at them through an opening. The three secured the door to prevent the man from fleeing. Caton said the driver disabled the vehicle after the attacker tried to drive it away.


As the three guarded the door with a crow bar and a hammer, the attacker went back to the body and calmly came to the front of the bus to show off the head.


Fellow passenger Cody Olmstead said the man "dropped the head and went back and started cutting the body." Olmstead said the man later taunted police and dropped the head in front of them.
Greyhound spokeswoman Abby Wambaugh said 37 passengers were aboard, many watching the on-board movie "Zorro" when the violence erupted.


"You're sitting there enjoying your trip and then all of a sudden somebody gets stabbed. I imagine it would be pretty traumatic," Colwell said.


He said the actions of truck driver, bus driver and Caton probably prevented anyone else from being hurt. They "were very brave."
The victim had been on the bus since Edmonton. Caton said the attacker boarded the bus in Brandon, Manitoba, about 80 miles west of Portage La Prairie.


The suspect had been on the bus about an hour and initially did not sit near the victim, Caton said.


"He sat in the front at first, everything was normal," Caton said.
"We went to the next stop and he got off and had a smoke with another young lady there. When he got on the bus again, he came to the back near where I was sitting.


"He put his bags in the overhead compartment. He didn't say a word to anybody. He seemed totally normal," Caton said.
Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day called the attack bizarre, but did not discuss details, saying he did not want to jeopardize the investigation.
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080802/ap_on_re_ca/canada_bus_stabbing_29
And here is the link to the story where the police video shows him eating the flesh of his victim!!!!!!!

Just bloody astounding!!! This guy qualifies for capital punishment if there was ever a case for it! Don't care if he is mentally ill or what, he doesn't deserve to live!!!!

*Disclaimer* This is my initial reaction based soley on the news reports, but still!!!!

So you think all mentally ill criminals should be killed? Ok i know thats not what your saying but there is a reason why a supposed civilised society draws a line at executing its mentally ill criminals.

I'd guess pretty damn likely even from the little information available that the guy is legally insane, and you dont wanna start killing people for that no matter how abhorrent their crimes may be. Do you?

Capital punishment hasn't acted as a deterrent in this case(dont know if it exists in Canada though) i'd its highly unlikely it will act as a punishment. Locked up in a secure hospital for the rest of his life is the way to go.
 
And now we enter the realm of me and you (well, the Canadian tax-payer) paying to keep this guy medicated until he dies naturally. Have you seen some of the secure mental hospitals that are around?

Thats all I am saying as I am not going into a lengthy debate into the pros and cons of capital punishment. All I will say is I am for it, in certain cases.
 

And now we enter the realm of me and you (well, the Canadian tax-payer) paying to keep this guy medicated until he dies naturally. Have you seen some of the secure mental hospitals that are around?

Thats all I am saying as I am not going into a lengthy debate into the pros and cons of capital punishment. All I will say is I am for it, in certain cases.
Having spent too many years caring for this type of patient in a secure Hospital,I can assure you that its a waste of taxpayers money treating a lot of this type of patient.to often the victim gets forgotten .I am not advocating the death penalty for all mentally ill patients but to those who are a danger to the public and will never change is keeping them confined and medicated really the best thing?
 
And now we enter the realm of me and you (well, the Canadian tax-payer) paying to keep this guy medicated until he dies naturally. Have you seen some of the secure mental hospitals that are around?

Thats all I am saying as I am not going into a lengthy debate into the pros and cons of capital punishment. All I will say is I am for it, in certain cases.

I'm lucky enough to have never seen any mental hospitals no, you saying theyre bad? If they are then they should be sorted out but thats a different discusion.

As for how much it costs to keep a mentally ill person medicated for the rest of their life, dont care how much it costs, death is not an alternative cheaper option.

As you might now i'm against the death penalty full stop in any case but the rights and wrongs of that aren't the point here, we aint talking about a sane man. Even places that have the death penalty wont put a medically insane man to death (theoretically) but are you honestly saying that even if the guy in this case is found to be insane you would have him killed to save a few bucks?

I really hope not. Death penalty is one thing but to start killing mentally ill people is another completly, we moved on from that a long time ago.
 
Im pro Death Penalty.

We dont have it in Australia, but I have no quams in ending someones life if they have taken a life in such circumstances. Come on he visciously stabbed him 40-50 times and friggin cut his head off before disembowling him. Some poor guy listening to his favourate tunes on his way somewhere. He deserves to fry. Convicted Pedophiles too. They need a good slow cooking.

The mentally ill though is a tough one. No one should have the right to end someones life just because their brain doesnt work the way it should. If it results in criminal action then thats different.

They closed alot of Mental hospitals here in Sydney years ago and they all just end up in gutters. Theres people that want to look after them, theres places they should be able to go. Id rather give my tax money to mentally disabled care than say a dole bludger who never did an honest days work in his life. But thats another story.
 
the thing that also has to be considered here is that proclaiming to be mentally ill is one of the more popular "get out of jail" cards.
 

This guy is sick, I nearly couldn't read that description of the attack it sounded truly horrifying.

He should be put to death, putting him in with the other mentally ill people would be a risk to the others I think.

Also remind me never to catch a bus in Canada if I ever go on holiday there.
 
The problem here is OK the guy is sick so they go to a secure hospital,and unless they are really mental ie cant think as opposed to psychopathic ect thats fine but a lot soon learn how to answer the doctors questions in a positive way so at a tribunal his or her record looks fine,and the classic will he/she be a danger if released (how do they know if the patient is supervised 24/7) then out they go trouble is from my own experiance about 60%-70%of them return for the same offence or worse for legal reasons I cant name him but one lad at 17 stabbed a girl who died his reason he wanted to know what stabbing someone felt like,after being released he was back inside a few months for similar offence now the girl although very sad was unavoidable but the second victim deserved better.
 
Kill. end of story.

Why pay to keep someone alive that will go and do the same again to an innocent.
 
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