Paulo Fonseca

[JLW]

Premier league experience is a load of pony, if you’re good enough your good enough. We now have a manager with PL experience in abundance look how that’s turning out!

 

[LiamG]

Regarding Silva.
We have no idea what happened between the various interested parties when Everton were courting Silva and made a bid to Watford for his services.
At the time it seemed that he stood back and said that he would leave it up to the clubs to sort it out.
However, after he was sacked I read that it was his constant requests for meetings with the board asking to be allowed to talk to Everton and to be allowed to leave for Everton convinced the Watford board even then that he had lost all focus at Watford and that had been transmitted to some players who wanted to go to Everton with him.... but then , Watford would say something like that... So , I don't know what is actually the truth.

Nor, do we know what was agreed between Everton, Silva and his agent at the time or has been agreed for the future... if that conversation ever took place.
We don't know if the Everton board still hold him in high regard after his dismissal, we only know they were prepared to pay Watford a fortune to get him, could they change their opinion so dramatically ?
I read recently that we were turned down by Tuchel but at the moment that is just paper talk with nothing to back that up and Tuchel is still out of work.

I think that what I am saying is that if Sam leaves the odds would be short on Silva being appointed .. at a fraction of the cost . I think Silva sounds like a BK appointment whereas we were told he didn't want Sam... my head hurts.... and I still hold the belief Sam will still be here next season.

I think Sam was pushed by Walsh and for some reason Walsh looks to be still held in high regard by Moshiri.

I think it's 50% Sam, 40% Silva and 10% other for next year. I doubt any change will be made till the summer but personally I hope s deal for Silva has already been done.

 

[LiamG]

I could see Arsenal going for Fonseca. We'll appoint Silva and finish seventh. But at least I'd watch.

I doubt either have done enough for Arsenal.

I think Tuchel will get that job.

 

[Ruairi77]

You're right I probably would have.

I'm not saying Fonseca definitely wouldn't do well and I like how his team's play.

I'm saying he's a more risky appointment and I don't think he has shown enough to justify that risk over Silva. One very good season in Ukraine and a decent champions league campaign aren't enough for me - it may just be down to having good players. His record before isn't that great.

It's like you're comparing Fonseca to Anchelotti or Simeoni.
Both he and Silva did well in Portugal
Both did well in similar foreign leagues (Greece/Ukraine)
But silva couldn't save hull and crumbled at watford after we got involved while Fonseca went on to achieve incredible things with Shakhtar.
Either would be better than fat sam tho.

 

[Borussin]

I doubt either have done enough for Arsenal.

I think Tuchel will get that job.

I am not sure Tuchel will want the Arsenal job, he wants to be with a Champions League team if he can, I still think he will be FC Bayern trainer next season.

 

[Ruairi77]

I doubt either have done enough for Arsenal.

I think Tuchel will get that job.

you think Tuchel has done more than Fonseca because he managed Dortmund for a wet weekend? His only other experience is in lower league German football.

Edit. Dortmund does give Tuchel an edge but I still see him as a risk.

 

[Brisan123]

Is Fonseca as I handsome as Silva? If so that settles it for me.

I asked the wife
She said if I go to the pub she’d have a threesome

 

[Borussin]

you think Tuchel has done more than Fonseca because he managed Dortmund for a wet weekend? His only other experience is in lower league German football.

Edit. Dortmund does give Tuchel an edge but I still see him as a risk.

he coached in the Bundesliga for 6 seasons so far. He's a seriously good coach, I would say he is far better a coach than any other in the PL outside the obvious ones (Guardiola, Mourinho, Klopp, Pochetino, Conte). The only risk with him is that he doesn't really work well with others! But hopefully he has learned from his mistakes at Dortmund.

 

[LiamG]

It's like you're comparing Fonseca to Anchelotti or Simeoni.
Both he and Silva did well in Portugal
Both did well in similar foreign leagues (Greece/Ukraine)
But silva couldn't save hull and crumbled at watford after we got involved while Fonseca wend on to achieve incredible things with Shakhtar.
Either would be better than fat sam tho.

Its just a different opinion. I'm not saying I'm definitely right.

But that Shakhtar team is really good.

Bernard Milos Fred are all Brazilian internationals. Fred is rated at around 50m and on the radar of City and Utd etc. And he's their main man in the center of midfield.

They are by far the best team. Will he be able to play that way against teams that are better with our players. At least we have an idea of how Silva will do based on Hull and Watford.

 

[LiamG]

I am not sure Tuchel will want the Arsenal job, he wants to be with a Champions League team if he can, I still think he will be FC Bayern trainer next season.

If he gets the Bayern job then you might be right but Arsenal is a massive job and there's no "real" champions league clubs in the UK. There's 6 clubs in the mix, only really City is head and shoulders above and that's mainly down to Pep.

Plus Arsenal have a lot of money. Any new manager will be backed with a massive war chest. If Wenger leaves they won't want to make the same mistake Utd did with Moyes and not really back him.

 

[Brisan123]

If he gets the Bayern job then you might be right but Arsenal is a massive job and there's no "real" champions league clubs in the UK. There's 6 clubs in the mix, only really City is head and shoulders above and that's mainly down to Pep.

Plus Arsenal have a lot of money. Any new manager will be backed with a massive war chest. If Wenger leaves they won't want to make the same mistake Utd did with Moyes and not really back him.

Arsenal won’t take the risk on Fonseca
The value of the CL is too high
I’d say they may go for Emery, which is a pity as I’d fancy him here

 

[LiamG]

Arsenal won’t take the risk on Fonseca
The value of the CL is too high
I’d say they may go for Emery, which is a pity as I’d fancy him here

We were talking about Tuchel but yea I agree Arsenal wouldn't risk Fonseca.

 

[Borussin]

If he gets the Bayern job then you might be right but Arsenal is a massive job and there's no "real" champions league clubs in the UK. There's 6 clubs in the mix, only really City is head and shoulders above and that's mainly down to Pep.

Plus Arsenal have a lot of money. Any new manager will be backed with a massive war chest. If Wenger leaves they won't want to make the same mistake Utd did with Moyes and not really back him.

it's mainly down to them spending about a billion pounds on fantastic players But anyway that is another discussion!

I think Tuchel will wait on Bayern, but yes, I can see that Arsenal would be attractive prospect like you say. I wonder though about the situation in Aersenal with Sven Mitlintat, our old head scout at Dortmund, who went to Arsenal to be head of recruitment. The beginning of the end of him at Dortmud happend when he and Tuchel had a really bad falling out. So I dont know if Arsenal can have both in the same building!

 

[kiss the crest]

Who ever gets Fonseca will get champions league, mark my words

 

[Connor]

Who ever gets Fonseca will get champions league, mark my words

"Almost Paulo's first words to me were: 'I'll get you in the Champions League'."