2021/22 Rafael Benitez

[LocalNative]

lol lol lol

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The Bobble on Twitter who's pretty much as ITK as it gets for us stated that Brands wanted them both. They're really not typical Benitez signings by any stretch.

 

[Leylo]

On some parameters we are obviously weaker. If we look at the number of points, then definitely yes. However, we are not much weaker when we look behind the results. Ancelotti's style was never sustainable, and was more of a symptom that he had given up and just wanted to save his own reputation.

I think Benitez, on the other hand, has a clear vision for how he wants the team to play, and works continuously with it in the training field. He has also seen clear weaknesses within the organization, and has done something about it. Something that Ancelotti did not care about.

Unlike Ancelotti, which was only looking for short-term success, and thus made a lot of ad-hoc solutions, which are not favorable for long-term success, Benitez is pretty principle firm, has a clear vision, and is not willing to make compromises, which may stand in the way of short-term success, but which lay the foundation for future success.

But we're just above relegation

 

[Terrarian]

Sorry no, just poorly phrased!

Was just wondering what those who still do want to keep him are basing it on and when they would expect results by.

I’ve not posted on this thread much but feel I was pretty open to seeing how he performed - he’s now had 6 months and I’ve not seen anything to think it worth giving him any more time.

There is no mitigation for what we are witnessing, it's a shambles.

The players have to portion some of the blame obviously, I don't feel they work hard enough for the shirt. We are paying for being stupid with contracts. We remind me of Leeds early 00's and we could go the same way.

 

[Cow kecks]

And if it was solely down to him I would be on your side of the argument but we've been a mess for a long time now so this was always going to happen on someone's watch.

In fact as go as far to say we have been getting steadily worse since we got a DOF. We may see change now we don't have one.

Don't you mean we've been getting steadily worse since we got rid of the DOF?

 

[Efcjake]

Signs a player on the 1st day of the window unlike a certain dithering Brands running around like a headless chicken on deadline day.

May I have another serving please Mr Benitez?

Just posting this in case you've been claiming to be "indifferent" again.

 

[Connor]

Player he's alienated getting the biggest applause of the day
Home stands finally turning on him with 'FAT SPANISH WAITER' songs
Losing to a side we've never lost at home to

Any other manager would have been sacked today. Instead, this fella gets the FA Cup game on Saturday, and if he loses that, will get Leicester in a week. Pathetic.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Just posting this in case you've been claiming to be "indifferent" again.

Nothing wrong with that the business done has been very early and welcomed compared to Brands panic day scrambling.

Being indifferent I can both praise and criticise him without any agenda...

 

[Jacob]

On some parameters we are obviously weaker. If we look at the number of points, then definitely yes. However, we are not much weaker when we look behind the results. Ancelotti's style was never sustainable, and was more of a symptom that he had given up and just wanted to save his own reputation.

I think Benitez, on the other hand, has a clear vision for how he wants the team to play, and works continuously with it in the training field. He has also seen clear weaknesses within the organization, and has done something about it. Something that Ancelotti did not care about.

Unlike Ancelotti, which was only looking for short-term success, and thus made a lot of ad-hoc solutions, which are not favorable for long-term success, Benitez is pretty principle firm, has a clear vision, and is not willing to make compromises, which may stand in the way of short-term success, but which lay the foundation for future success.

Having a vision is laudable when the club is at an even keel. However, we are now in a situation where we are in tail-spin and measures need to be taken to ensure we re-balance. It isnt the time for our manager to be unwilling to make compromises for short term success....we need points to regain a comfortable position. In order to achieve that, he needs to park his ego and, moreover, not make bizarre totally ineffective team set ups like yesterday.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I think Benitez, on the other hand, has a clear vision for how he wants the team to play

lol

 

[Efcjake]

Nothing wrong with that the business done has been very early and welcomed compared to Brands panic day scrambling.

Being indifferent I can both praise and criticise him without any agenda...

Except you haven't criticized him. All you've done is defend him from it and make yourself look very silly as a result.

Now you want to pretend you've never been convinced but there's 1000s of posts of you kissing his backside just like the one I just posted.

 

[ToffeeTim]

On some parameters we are obviously weaker. If we look at the number of points, then definitely yes. However, we are not much weaker when we look behind the results. Ancelotti's style was never sustainable, and was more of a symptom that he had given up and just wanted to save his own reputation.

I think Benitez, on the other hand, has a clear vision for how he wants the team to play, and works continuously with it in the training field. He has also seen clear weaknesses within the organization, and has done something about it. Something that Ancelotti did not care about.

Unlike Ancelotti, which was only looking for short-term success, and thus made a lot of ad-hoc solutions, which are not favorable for long-term success, Benitez is pretty principle firm, has a clear vision, and is not willing to make compromises, which may stand in the way of short-term success, but which lay the foundation for future success.

No manager who cannot defend a basic corner is fit to manage at this level

 

[Efcjake]

What happened when we played against Potterball?

Potter's team battered Rafaball

 

[Ruairi77]

Still cant get Sundays selection out of my head.
Feel free to skip over this post, at this point I'm just ranting to make myself feel better.

On the line up.
Why not just play

Pickford
Coleman, Keane, Godfrey, Digne.
Allan, Gomes, Doucoure
Gordon, DCL, Gray

I mean, christ, it's not difficult. That should be enough to at least compete with BHA
If you look at that team, they've all been outstanding at one stage or another.
It's not like its made up of Iwobi, schneiderlin and Alcaraz.

Yea Coleman is getting on and hasn't been the same since his leg break, but christ, playing him as an attacking left back boggles the mind.
Probably the most mental decision I've seen from a manager given Digne was on the bench. I honestly cant think of a worse decision.

And what's happened to Allan, I think Ancelotti knew his limitations and knew how to play him. Benitez has no idea, so he just strolls around.
Keane is the ultimate confidence player and seems to crumple at the first sign of trouble. Doesn't help when he and Allan have no idea what each other are doing, again, a coaching problem.

On recruitment, it's now looking like Ancelotti/Brands had both new fullbacks already lined up. The jurys out on who lined Gray up, so the only clear Benitez signings are Townsend, Rondon and the two old keepers. It's not encouraging.
I believe we should also have kept James till at least this window. (I know tons disagree with that)

And then the constant injuries (muscle strains etc) has got to have something to do with training.

But I think the biggest problem I have with Benitez is the constant primary school mind games, stubbornness, and pettiness.
Moyes played the undercard the whole time, it worked given his resources.
Martinez was the eternal optimist which was great till he tried to use it to paper over the cracks
Koeman, Sam, and Silva all had their quirks, some good, most bad. (Silva is the only one who seemed balanced and I felt sorry for).
But I don't remember any of them sniping at players.
Never mind Digne, He came out and said Yery was hard to manage because he's always getting injured. That may be, but what's the point of saying it publicly. There's none, unless you're working an angle, which Benitez always seems to be doing.

Phew. a lot of my chest there.
So poor coach, communicator, fitness trainer, team selector, recruiter, motivator. Is there anything this fella is actually good at.
I'll give him half the credit for Gray.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Nothing wrong with that the business done has been very early and welcomed compared to Brands panic day scrambling.

Being indifferent I can both praise and criticise him without any agenda...

How do you know this wasn't a done deal months ago, led by Brands?

 

[MACCA75]

On some parameters we are obviously weaker. If we look at the number of points, then definitely yes. However, we are not much weaker when we look behind the results. Ancelotti's style was never sustainable, and was more of a symptom that he had given up and just wanted to save his own reputation.

I think Benitez, on the other hand, has a clear vision for how he wants the team to play, and works continuously with it in the training field. He has also seen clear weaknesses within the organization, and has done something about it. Something that Ancelotti did not care about.

Unlike Ancelotti, which was only looking for short-term success, and thus made a lot of ad-hoc solutions, which are not favorable for long-term success, Benitez is pretty principle firm, has a clear vision, and is not willing to make compromises, which may stand in the way of short-term success, but which lay the foundation for future success.

Every word of this is incorrect