Apart from being relegated with Wigan why do some Evertonians hate Martinez and are not willing to give him the time we usually afford managers. His first season seems to be a distant memory to some. Why is the league position so important when we know it needs a miracle or a substantial amount of money to finish in the top 4. Can't we just let him build from youth to senior over his contract and wait and see if we have a good structure to maintain and develop, or shall we get rid so we can finish in the same top 8 position without any threat to the top 4 or any threat of winning a cup.