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David Barks
244 Posted 28/08/2017 at 02:05:33
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Exactly what good would a world class striker make in the way Koeman has us play. There is only room for 11 on the pitch, the keeper takes one of those, so 10. Koeman then wants to use 3 center backs. So down to 7 left. He then plays with 2 more defenders as full backs (and I will not call them wingback because they do nothing going forward). So down to 5 spots left.
He then will always play with Gana and Schneiderlin if healthy and available as holding midfielders. So down to 3 spots left. So far, no players offering any distribution in attack. So who takes up those last 3 spots? Rooney is going to play. Gilfy I would imagine. And for now Sandro. So replace Sandro with Costa and we still aren't offering any support in attack, still set up ultra defensive with our forward outnumbered and far too many players who are primarily out there to defend and break up play.
Conte plays 3 at the back as opposed to our 5, and he uses actual singers as his wing backs/ full backs. He converted Moses from a forward to winger, primarily there to attack. Same with Alonso, he's there to get forward and attack.
He lets his 3 defenders worry about defence, knowing most teams only use one striker. That allows one defender to get forward in attack when they want, still having 2 back to worry about the opposition. And Kante is in the middle of the park stopping the opposition from hitting them on the break.
Koeman sets out with mostly defenders. Conte sets out with mostly attackers. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the difference and predict the result 99/100 times.
David Barks
244 Posted 28/08/2017 at 02:05:33
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Exactly what good would a world class striker make in the way Koeman has us play. There is only room for 11 on the pitch, the keeper takes one of those, so 10. Koeman then wants to use 3 center backs. So down to 7 left. He then plays with 2 more defenders as full backs (and I will not call them wingback because they do nothing going forward). So down to 5 spots left.
He then will always play with Gana and Schneiderlin if healthy and available as holding midfielders. So down to 3 spots left. So far, no players offering any distribution in attack. So who takes up those last 3 spots? Rooney is going to play. Gilfy I would imagine. And for now Sandro. So replace Sandro with Costa and we still aren't offering any support in attack, still set up ultra defensive with our forward outnumbered and far too many players who are primarily out there to defend and break up play.
Conte plays 3 at the back as opposed to our 5, and he uses actual singers as his wing backs/ full backs. He converted Moses from a forward to winger, primarily there to attack. Same with Alonso, he's there to get forward and attack.
He lets his 3 defenders worry about defence, knowing most teams only use one striker. That allows one defender to get forward in attack when they want, still having 2 back to worry about the opposition. And Kante is in the middle of the park stopping the opposition from hitting them on the break.
Koeman sets out with mostly defenders. Conte sets out with mostly attackers. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the difference and predict the result 99/100 times.
sharkey1001
Player Valuation: £10m
We are missing Barkley.. there I said it!
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
Brutal vaulting right there.
Kenshin
Player Valuation: £40m
I agree but it seems that is koemans way of doing things. Back at Southampton he did have the players to make that system work where here he has essentially had to start from scratch and on a mass scale for a top 7 club.
I remember going back to November and he was saying the players couldn't play the pressing system he wanted but then persevering with it every week and it did get me a little doubtful about him as a manager. I think in our case we just need to accept it and hope the system works because if it does we will be very hard to beat and break the ceiling as a team and not as a bunch of individuals.
Take the likes of lewen, lookman, sandro , holgate, Davies to name a few. 3 years down the line they could be fantastic for is and all playong together as a unit, the negative for koeman is that he has them all a few years too early
I know I'll get slated but I'd rather have Holgate alongside Keane in a back four against more mobile teams.
Kev The Rat
Player Valuation: £70m
I don't think any kind of come back is possible from that tbh
davids
Player Valuation: £70m
I'd go with that too,both of the others will be an ongoing liability when we play away from home,meaning we'll always start with a negative set up.
Let's phone Ron, get it sorted.
All we're missing is this mythical 50M for Koeman to waste.
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abelard
Player Valuation: £35m
this was one of the first matches in some time where Koeman seemed unwilling/able to make any meaningful changes. he is usually very proactive about fixing his own mistakes.
i was certain he would take off Williams at half to switch to a more attacking formation. down two, why on earth not? that same move worked quite well the last time.
but all he did was replace the personnel, though it was clearly mostly the shape, and not the players, that were the problem.
i was certain he would take off Williams at half to switch to a more attacking formation. down two, why on earth not? that same move worked quite well the last time.
but all he did was replace the personnel, though it was clearly mostly the shape, and not the players, that were the problem.
How has this chancers thread slipped off the first page when we are in freefall down the table without a win in two games and have limped into the Europa group stage?
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