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Ross Barkley

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RaleighBlue said:
I don't think I'd sell him for any amount of money beyond the absurd (I.E. enough to build a new ground).

The Bale sale shows that many good players are not better than one world class player. And while Ross isn't world class (or close to Bale's level) he has the potential to be. I don't think we could buy a player of Ross' potential with the money recouped from Ross + strengthen other areas of the team.

What Ross lets us do is focus on other areas of the pitch and look for good second options in his place.

Even beyond all that, he clearly will be better in 2-3 years than he is now - if we must sell him, sell him then, when he has a higher valuation.

If it doesn't work out, oh well, but letting go of an Evertonian wunderkid is not something we should be doing again.
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That argument fails on one fundamental point and that is the classification of the 6-7 players brought in the summer as 'good'. The only good signing amongst the lot was Eriksen, and if they had all had his impact they wouldn't have missed Bale whatsoever.
 
Royal Blue Jersey said:
That argument fails on one fundamental point and that is the classification of the 6-7 players brought in the summer as 'good'. The only good signing amongst the lot was Eriksen, and if they had all had his impact they wouldn't have missed Bale whatsoever.
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Pick 6-7 players you can buy for 90 million that are 'good'.

No one has done that in one summer successfully as far as I know. Soldado was one that many here were shouting for, Capoue as well. Can you think of a single case in which a team sold its best player and was better afterwards?

It's a crapshoot unless you're buying a sure thing, and that costs more than 90m for 6-7 or them.
 
RaleighBlue said:
Pick 6-7 players you can buy for 90 million that are 'good'.

No one has done that in one summer successfully as far as I know. Soldado was one that many here were shouting for, Capoue as well. Can you think of a single case in which a team sold its best player and was better afterwards?

It's a crapshoot unless you're buying a sure thing, and that costs more than 90m for 6-7 or them.
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General consensus on here was that Fellaini was our best player. So see Everton on how to cope with such a loss.
 
Royal Blue Jersey said:
General consensus on here was that Fellaini was our best player. So see Everton on how to cope with such a loss.
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Did people really think he was better than Baines?

Even so, I suppose you found flaw in my argument. Allow me to rephrase: has a team ever sold a genuine world class talent and became better off?

I'm not suggesting Ross is world class, but he has the potential to be. I don't think it's wise to sell that sort of potential/talent for the crapshoot of the transfer market.

Fellaini was a solid player for us, at times he was very good (yes I know you feel otherwise and we'll just disagree there), but I would be surprised if many people thought he had the same sort of stratospheric ceiling that Ross shows.

I suppose the best example would be us selling Rooney and then finishing 4th, but we were gash when we sold him. I hope we're solid enough to be patient with Barkley. I just don't feel like buying in the transfer market will get us super far if we sell our best assets. We need to buy specific individual needs and retain our assets and bring the youth through to compete at the top level, because we don't have the money to make the same sort of mistakes City, Chelsea, Liverpool, and United can.
 

The Daily Star normally make up the most ridiculous stories they can think of. Other outlets are quoting it in their 'What the papers say' section, giving it apparent credibility. It's garbage.
 

Its a joke, i really dont think Rodgers and the club would even do this. The relationship between the clubs is different to the Barmby era and we as a club are much healthier and no longer have to sell when anyone comes asking just to survive. I could see United trying it on but not Liverpool.
All hell would break lose again, I know buisness is buisness but today showed the clubs have better connections than the Smith/Houllier days, having present managers with a bit more dignity and class has helped move us into a new era.
 
Tubey said:
I read that as him being sarcastic, not literal. He's basically saying "according to you lot, it was £50m in the summer!" etc.
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Hence the question mark.
But there was a story doing the rounds in the summer that a prem club had turned down an offer of £50 million for a young english player, Luke Shaw was the name being bandied about,this however was denied by Southampton.
No smoke without fire ?
 
bourneblue said:
Hence the question mark.
But there was a story doing the rounds in the summer that a prem club had turned down an offer of £50 million for a young english player, Luke Shaw was the name being bandied about,this however was denied by Southampton.
No smoke without fire ?
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Actually I've attempted to start menu fires and I can tell you there are many times I've had smoke with no fire.
 

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