Ross Barkley

dandydan · April 29, 2016

royalbalou said:
Out of order if true...as much as most of us want the manager to be replaced, it's not something that should be dictated by the players and they certainly shouldn't be blackmailing the club over a new contract.
The players(including Ross) haven't exactly come out of this as true professionals and have been pretty awful for the past six months

Not really, if your boss was an utter bell wouldn't you be considering alternative employment?

bluegirl · April 29, 2016

royalbalou said:
Out of order if true...as much as most of us want the manager to be replaced, it's not something that should be dictated by the players and they certainly shouldn't be blackmailing the club over a new contract.
The players(including Ross) haven't exactly come out of this as true professionals and have been pretty awful for the past six months

This is very true - yes Martinez needs to go but the players need to look as themselves too. A lot of them have thrown the towel in.

It's easy to jump ship when it's sinking, be interesting to see who is prepared to stay and fight...

royalbalou · April 29, 2016

dandydan said:
Not really, if your boss was an utter bell wouldn't you be considering alternative employment?

He isn't an utter bell...he's just not doing a good job and will/should be replaced...he's just not being helped by the very people calling him an utter bell..ie the likes of ....Ross

dandydan · April 29, 2016

royalbalou said:
He isn't an utter bell...he's just not doing a good job and will/should be replaced...he's just not being helped by the very people calling him an utter bell..ie the likes of ....Ross

I was using an example. However Ross may have a different opinion from working with him for 3 years.

Goat · April 29, 2016

royalbalou said:
He isn't an utter bell...he's just not doing a good job and will/should be replaced...he's just not being helped by the very people calling him an utter bell..ie the likes of ....Ross

Think you will find that he is infact a complete and utter bell.

Thats not even up for debate at this point IMO.

mkrudden · April 29, 2016

MoutsGoat said:
Think you will find that he is infact a complete and utter bell.

Thats not even up for debate at this point IMO.

Nah

RFUS · April 29, 2016

bluegirl said:
This is very true - yes Martinez needs to go but the players need to look as themselves too. A lot of them have thrown the towel in.

It's easy to jump ship when it's sinking, be interesting to see who is prepared to stay and fight...

Hard to fight for someone who you think is an utter loon though.

Jxg · April 29, 2016

westyuk1 said:
Bleacher is an american newscorp, I can't see them having any inside information. That being said, the rumours about Martinez losing the dressing room are rife so it wouldn't surprise me. At 22, if he thinks he's too good for Everton and wants to go I'd rather he just left now than drag it out.

I didn't use that cesspool of a website mate, but generally if every paper and site are reporting it, there is no smoke without fire.

sageyefc · April 29, 2016

Jxg said:
I didn't use that cesspool of a website mate, but generally if every paper and site are reporting it, there is no smoke without fire.

If bleacher report are the original source then its BS

bluegirl · April 29, 2016

RFUS said:
Hard to fight for someone who you think is an utter loon though.

There is that - I'm not defending Martinez at all. It's been a joke.

Abertonian · April 29, 2016

He's a young lad with plenty of people in his ear. Make no mistake if he stays and Martinez stays his career is going nowhere and he'll have been told that repeatedly. As things stand he could well be a bit part player in the Euros because of this season.

If he is prepared to issue demands about the manager then its because he wants to stay and be successful here, otherwise he'd ask to leave or turn down the contract offer.

Not excusing players not making an effort this season, they do need to take a good long look at themselves including Ross.

Paul w · April 29, 2016

If that's true then Barkley needs to go as well as the manager.

Groucho · April 29, 2016

royalbalou said:
Out of order if true...as much as most of us want the manager to be replaced, it's not something that should be dictated by the players and they certainly shouldn't be blackmailing the club over a new contract.
The players(including Ross) haven't exactly come out of this as true professionals and have been pretty awful for the past six months

Agree.

Obviously I'd prefer Barkley to stay but that's no way to behave.

Of course this could all be garbage.

Goat · April 29, 2016

Groucho said:
Agree.

Obviously I'd prefer Barkley to stay but that's no way to behave.

Of course this could all be garbage.

Its all bull IMO.

Goat · April 29, 2016

Lets avoid getting on Barks back for some made up bull from an utter rag.

Surely we are better than that?

Ross will know that Martinez is gone, he has no need to say anything.