2017/18 Ross Barkley

[Bourney]

He's gonna leave for absolutely nothing grim!

 

[peteblue]

I am going to give Ross the benefit of the doubt and will do so until proven otherwise.

I do not believe Ross is a Machiavellian type of lad.

Nor do I believe his agent would do a grand old Duke of York and march him up to the top of the Chelsea hill only to march him straight back down again.

Presumably he deals with Chelsea on a regular basis or if not, he would be desirous of doing business with that club in the future.

So I cannot see him wanting to jeopardise that relationship by appearing to play Chelsea with a view to selling his client at a lesser fee in January.

Ditto Everton...he needs to keep Everton as an option for his clients.

So I am going to give Ross the benefit and will believe that when faced with actually leaving a club he has loved all his life, he had a change of heart and couldn't go through with it.

He wants to stay.

Perhaps I am being naive, foolish even, but that is what I am wanting to believe right now

You really are being naive.....sorry mate, you are a good lad but this fella has played all the fans for fools.....

 

[Khalekan]

I thought the same until I heard Moshiri give that interview. Sounded to me like he's basically going in January when he gets round to assessing his options

I have learned to take Moshiri's quotes to Jim White with a pinch of salt, Bob

 

[ProZ]

I am going to give Ross the benefit of the doubt and will do so until proven otherwise.

I do not believe Ross is a Machiavellian type of lad.

Nor do I believe his agent would do a grand old Duke of York and march him up to the top of the Chelsea hill only to march him straight back down again.

Presumably he deals with Chelsea on a regular basis or if not, he would be desirous of doing business with that club in the future.

So I cannot see him wanting to jeopardise that relationship by appearing to play Chelsea with a view to selling his client at a lesser fee in January.

Ditto Everton...he needs to keep Everton as an option for his clients.

So I am going to give Ross the benefit and will believe that when faced with actually leaving a club he has loved all his life, he had a change of heart and couldn't go through with it.

He wants to stay.

Perhaps I am being naive, foolish even, but that is what I am wanting to believe right now

He wants to review his position in January mate what more is there to say.

 

[Runcornblue52]

Can't we just hope that he wants to stay ?

 

[Khalekan]

i think he did, problem is the owner effectively said he has no future today

Again, don't get hung up on what Moshiri says on deadline day

 

[MACCA75]

Jesus Christ some people STILL think he's going to sign a new contract..

Listen to what Moshiri said, you barely have to read between the lines. Ross has no future at Everton. He'll be moving (almost certainly to Spurs) in January.

 

[banno]

I am going to give Ross the benefit of the doubt and will do so until proven otherwise.

I do not believe Ross is a Machiavellian type of lad.

Nor do I believe his agent would do a grand old Duke of York and march him up to the top of the Chelsea hill only to march him straight back down again.

Presumably he deals with Chelsea on a regular basis or if not, he would be desirous of doing business with that club in the future.

So I cannot see him wanting to jeopardise that relationship by appearing to play Chelsea with a view to selling his client at a lesser fee in January.

Ditto Everton...he needs to keep Everton as an option for his clients.

So I am going to give Ross the benefit and will believe that when faced with actually leaving a club he has loved all his life, he had a change of heart and couldn't go through with it.

He wants to stay.

Perhaps I am being naive, foolish even, but that is what I am wanting to believe right now

No you are not being naïve you are thinking/hoping what most of us are. A positive outlook which could be the case and all is well. If Ross signed his contract I reckon 90% of Evertonians would love it, I would. If he doesn't sign then he has stitched us up

 

[DanEFC92]

You've let me down, you've let your team down. But most importantly, you've let yourself down.

You absolute bellend.

 

[Tubey]

Cheers Tubes. But is the option I mentioned about spurs only agreeing to go for him in January not another option for that list? Pulls out last minute of a deal he wasnt totally sure on, and decided to hold off for the possible Spurs bid in Jan?

It doesn't explain the timing. If Spurs had intimated to him that they'll sign him in January, it wouldn't have been halfway through a Chelsea medical with one hour to go on deadline day and, even if they had done that, his agent wouldn't risk his clients' entire future on a frantic last gasp verbal exchange with little time to consider the implications.

It is very unlikely in my view that that is what has happened. If Spurs had tapped him up, they did it a long time before now and it would have meant no medical at Chelsea this evening. Because there'd be no point - there's nothing to gain from having discussions with Chelsea to that extent in that scenario, because 'tapping up' means arranging an outcome well in advance of time and that would have meant Barkley and his agent rejecting a move to Chelsea out of hand.

 

[bicycleheader]

Because January the club would still be able to command a fee for him, make no mistake the club will put massive pressure on him to leave from this point forward.

IF Barkley wanted out he would now be a Chelsea player, IF he wanted to leave on a free then he simply turns down the contract via his agent and this wouldn't even be a story as such, same way McManaman did or Lewandowski did.

What happened today was a player who doesn't really want to leave and the club trying to push him out the door as hard as it could in order to get the best fee they could do.

As much as I want him to stay and would love to believe he doesn't really want to leave, I think you are wrong to claim that this has been proven tonight...possible but not proven...however there could be some truth in your last sentence in that a move to Chelsea tonight was wanted much more by the club than the player.

 

[Azza]

So basically he'll go on a free to Spurs in the summer. Or mega cheap in Jan.

 

[Khalekan]

You really are being naive.....sorry mate, you are a good lad but this fella has played all the fans for fools.....

Well, we will see Pete.

We will see

 

[peteblue]

lets just say , he needs to come out with a statement tomorrow. if he says he wants to stay and fight for his place, good , excellent.
but if he says nothing or doesn't sign , then he is the biggest rat in our history.

This really. He thinks he can say nothing, leave and be bezzies with all Evertonians.....well guess what Ross......

 

[longers]

If you don't want to go.... Dont take a medical.... Again... It really is that simple.

Ok but whats the difference between him taking a medical or not ? Its a bit of an irrelevance surely ?

- He takes a medical and then changes mind = He stays

- He doesn't take a medical = He stays

Its the same outcome...

He has been tapped up..... Freaking obvious. If he still refuses our wage deal and leaves on a free next summer... I hope you change your thinking....This harms our club... It certainly doesn't help it. I hope..... Desperately that he does the right thing... Sign a contract, we get descent money.. We all move on..... If not ?? Well, His decision.

Yes id say he's been in talks with Spurs and intends to leave in January or the summer after. It's unfortunate for the club that we lose out on money and in an ideal world he would have chosen Chelsea to give us a good fee but if he had doubts about that move then its a pretty big ask to expect him to value the benefits for Everton (£35m) higher than his first choice of club.

I get that the club comes out of this badly (from financial perspective) because of him but he's allowed to choose what's right for him. It's really that simple.