Scouse Republic - David Swift

[uglykidjoe1982]

Anyone else reading this? I’m about halfway through and it is really the most hateful contrarian claptrap I have ever read. The author is clearly a Tory and a RS and his whole argument is that ‘scouse identity’ is this carefully cultivated popular delusion.

His modus operandi is to cherrypick examples to ‘prove’ that Scousers are really Tories and racists in denial. I threw the book across the room when I got to the bit where he decided it was offensive to chant that Forest fans were ‘scabs’ and Everton and Liverpool fans are secretly the same as Milwall fans.

I’d be interested in reading other people’s thoughts. Frank Cottrell-Boyce gave it a good review in the paper and now I feel robbed

 

[Rita_Poon]

Anyone else reading this? I’m about halfway through and it is really the most hateful contrarian claptrap I have ever read. The author is clearly a Tory and a RS and his whole argument is that ‘scouse identity’ is this carefully cultivated popular delusion.

His modus operandi is to cherrypick examples to ‘prove’ that Scousers are really Tories and racists in denial. I threw the book across the room when I got to the bit where he decided it was offensive to chant that Forest fans were ‘scabs’ and Everton and Liverpool fans are secretly the same as Milwall fans.

I’d be interested in reading other people’s thoughts. Frank Cottrell-Boyce gave it a good review in the paper and now I feel robbed

erm!

There aren't many reds that'd go that way that I can think of. And there's plenty to pick a random opinion from. Tbh, I thought with the setup this'd be a pun spectacular...

Wouldn't be like one of thatchers minions to rewrite history, there's a band wagon of it occurring over the atlantic and everyone is sick of that already as well.

 

[Charro]

Wasn’t liverpool a republican, tory city for quite a long time?

We’re certainly not the socialist republic we think we are.

Wouldn’t be surprised at all to see reform make serious gains in parts at the next election.

 

[Rita_Poon]

 

[uglykidjoe1982]

Wasn’t liverpool a republican, tory city for quite a long time?

We’re certainly not the socialist republic we think we are.

Wouldn’t be surprised at all to see reform make serious gains in parts at the next election.

Which is pretty much the point made by the book, but it’s written in a very snarky condescending way.

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

Unless world of books sells for 1.99 ,I'll wait for a borrow.

 

[magicjuan]

Which is pretty much the point made by the book, but it’s written in a very snarky condescending way.

The contradictions in the city are usually along sectarian lines, less obvious but still political.
Then there are specific industries that were heavily unionised, dangerous work and as a consequence were militant, for want of a better word.
Historical, sometimes 'enforced' hardships on the city brewed the tenacity, and then culture, escapism in music, writing and the arts at first promoted ideals and then stereotypes.
We're a mongrel breed which makes 'right wing' scousers absolute knobends

 

[jazzy]

There was a very interesting review of this book and discussion about the political history of Liverpool on Radio 5 earlier this week.

 

[Kurt.]

Scouse Tory rats