2023/24 Sean Dyche

[MikeH72]

It's the limitations of xG. It's a good metric on chances created but you can't rely on it anymore than that. For example, Harrison's goal probably had 0.01 xG or something and other long-range goals would be similar which completely skews data.

It also doesn’t factor in the individual player. Like if you allow Idrissa Gueye a 25 yard shot unchallenged he’ll put it out the stadium, but if you allow Kevin de Bruyne exactly the same opportunity he’s putting it on target and probably in the top corner. The xG will be the same but clearly one player is more likely to score the opportunity than the other. That’s just one of hundreds and hundreds of variables that aren’t taken into consideration when looking at a raw set of numbers.

Stats are bogus and xG is no different. An actual professional football manager trying to hide behind it is frankly embarrassing.

 

[Neiler]

The two teams we've played in the top 5 this season we've lost 5-0 on agg and had 3 shots at goal in both of them combined.

Is there a possibility in the next few weeks we could be 7 points from 30? I hope not. Just as much as i hope pissing them points away at home wont come back to bite us.

I do really feel it was up to Sheff Utd, when we began to get half fit players back when a fair judgement can be made, the weekend was the first time we have had close to full deck. If we've tracked almost a point a game, including that adversity up to Sheff Utd, i think we will be alright.

 

[NorthernBlue]

We certainly need to be picking up points from the next batch of fixtures. “Well they’re just better than us” simply won’t wash, we’ve been beaten by a lot of teams that I keep getting told are worse than us this year, so we need to do likewise and beat better teams. We beat better teams than us last year in Arsenal and Brighton when we had a worse squad.

I expect us to pick up points and won’t listen to any excuses. If we’re anywhere near the bottom 3 come the start of December he should be sacked.

XG though mate. I think we get extra points at the end of the season if we in the top 4 for XG. So we should be sound.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

Has got us playing better football than what we had with benitez lampard. But he needs to get it each week from the players now, hate this xg rubbish was prob used to say maupay was a good player has a high xg but cant finish.
We are fun to watch I’ll give him that.The results aren’t fun and the goals we have given up don’t make me giggle, but we are an interesting team to watch for most of our games. The stats are all well and good but bootleg Captain Flint needs to start winning games.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

Has got us playing better football than what we had with benitez lampard. But he needs to get it each week from the players now, hate this xg rubbish was prob used to say maupay was a good player has a high xg but cant finish.

We are fun to watch I’ll give him that.The results aren’t fun and the goals we have given up don’t make me giggle, but we are an interesting team to watch for most of our games. The stats are all well and good but bootleg Captain Flint needs to start winning games.

 

[PeregrineT]

I beg to differ. I bet Arsenal and City care how many points they are on only 8 games in. Clubs and their fans with built in losers mindsets roll out the "points don't matter before christmas" garbage, but the teams midtable and above want every point on offer.

Doubt Arteta is spending his nights mulling over xG stats so he can quote them in his press conference, probably more concerned with what to improve on in practice and make it happen in game.

They dont, you picked the two clubs who care even less than anyone else. All they care about is where they are on week 38. Also its interesting you think Arteta and Pep dont have people pouring over data and analytics and do so a good bit themselves.

 

[PeregrineT]

That's not true at all. I agree with every poster you have quoted. I would much rather have real points on the board than meaningless stats no matter how many games have been played. We would be about 8th in the league and full of confidence and optimism but for being super gozzy at scoring in goals in most of the games. That is what XG stands for when referring to Everton by the Way. Expected Gozziness.

Then enjoy hanging out with Rafael

 

[MikeH72]

Then enjoy hanging out with Rafael

What’s he got to do with anything? He got sacked after a run of 1 win in 14 games with us just outside the relegation places. If Dyche has us in a similar position and in similarly grim form then he will be sacked as well, regardless of what our xG is.

 

[Lob]

Then enjoy hanging out with Rafael

What has the fat spanish waiter got to do with anything. Completely lost me with that one. The only similarity is that they have both been terrible managers.

 

[Blue_Eagle]

I hate modern day data in football.

Heat maps, xG, distance covered blah blah blah

My eyes give me all the data i need to know if we are performing well or the players are performing well.
Dont need an excel file to know if a team is functioning or not, the league table tell yous that.

Problem is mate, they're covered by a layer of bias, so they're not accurate.

And you're blind as a bat too...

 

[mikel_88]

We are fun to watch I’ll give him that.The results aren’t fun and the goals we have given up don’t make me giggle, but we are an interesting team to watch for most of our games. The stats are all well and good but bootleg Captain Flint needs to start winning games.

100% agree with you i have not been his biggest fan have called him out before brentford and if he would have lost the last game. I would have wanted him gone, just have gibe him credit that the team has improved but is still nowhere near this great club and fanbase ahould be at this time

 

[JLW]

Problem is mate, they're covered by a layer of bias, so they're not accurate.

And you're blind as a bat too...

I blame looking at the ball when its at the same height as the floodlights.

So yes im blaming Dyche for my decreasing vision too...

Luckily though i can still see the results from this season and the league table and that's not bias.

 

[mikel_88]

Great, then you all wish we still had Rafael Benitez you nitwits, because that's exactly what I described and you forgot that happened just 2 years ago. Absolutely nobody cares how many points you have on matchday 8 vs matchday 38.

I care how many points we have each week i want to see us do well. I do not want to go into the last set of games for another season again looking at scores working out how much we need to stay uo. This is what the team has done to me

 

[Clarky cat]

You know when xG or other stats are being brought out you are clearly trying to make up for a lack of something.

Is it daylight?

 

[Clarky cat]

Biggie and Tupac are my favourite xg’s