2024/25 Sean Dyche

[mrb85]

Sake…
O’Brien, Patterson, Dixon, Lindstrom. Not good enough to be starting, barely good enough to be on the bench.

Branthwaite, Coleman probably haven’t got an hour in them at the moment.

Beto has less talent than DCL who seems to have given up. Beto at least puts some effort in, but can he last a full match doing that?

So youve watched O'Brien and the others listed in all the dozen or so matches they've collectively taken a part in?

 

[Toffeepot]

Remember when everybody knew we needed more goals in the team? We've certainly added to the attackin


Played over 2,000 league minutes but 'Dyche didn't even use him lad.'

Besides the fact that is about 60% of the possible minutes, I think the argument is referring to our best run towards the end when he was benched more

 

[BigDuncTributeBand]

See he was described as “ playing football from another era “ by one of the footy journos who covered our game at the weekend.

It doesn’t get more damming than that.

OUT.

He’s so self satisfied about it as well - footie from another era and proud of it. Can’t wait til he’s gone.

 

[Davideeyore]

Sack him tomorrow, and whoever comes in still has a team that's relegation fodder. Fans badly overestimate this team - we're crap.

Rubbish.

The club badly overestimates the calibre of manager. Fact.

 

[Toffeepot]

It amazes me that after nearly two years at the helm Dyche thinks 'it's been like that since I got here' sounds like a positive defence of his ability as a manager and coach.

 

[Toffeepot]

We've averaged 41 points for 3 years on the spin.

Sack him tomorrow, and whoever comes in still has a team that's relegation fodder. Fans badly overestimate this team - we're crap.

Until there's new ownership, and investment to bring in players with pace/who can score goals - we're going to be in a relegation scrap.

That new ownership will bring in their own manager.

I'm just hoping our heads are above water come January, when hopefully ownership situation sorted and we can bring in a few players.

We've had crap managers three years on the spin.

 

[Davideeyore]

See he was described as “ playing football from another era “ by one of the footy journos who covered our game at the weekend.

It doesn’t get more damming than that.

OUT.

I imagine they said the 90's.

1890's

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

You see, I don't see the exact same tactics every game that some people claim. We didn't go to Saints and go with a low block. We tried to press for most of the game. There was even a couple of times in the first half when Keane just left tarkowski, and went in to their half joining the press. It certainly wasn't the tactics you'll likely see him use at let's say Anfield.

The press at the weekend was only effective at times though, and when we did have those spells were it was effective, and you felt we were on top, we were found lacking.

Anyway, he's not getting booted yet, so a good result against the hammers will relieve a bit of pressure. We're all hoping for that, aren't we?

You are privileged to be able to perceive the varied hues of failure then ?

 

[mrb85]

Is it just an endless purgatory being an Evertonian?

It's another one of those days that makes you think "What's the point?"

Watching us get outclassed by a team guaranteed to be relegated - whilst that lot surge back from being behind to win, watching some crap Bruce Willis lookalike be somehow even better than the teutonic tit that preceded him.

I'm absolutely bubbling here

Wouldn't say we were "outclassed". We made Southampton look decent by again adopting tactics aimed at keeping a clean sheet. It's clear that DCL is cheesed off with how we are required to play - and he won't be the only one not enjoying adhering to such rigid, negative tactics and formations.

 

[mrb85]

Who would you like to succeed SD tho?

Arteta will be looking for a job soon...

 

[Leylo]

So he’s setting us up to not concede loads of goals, whilst having nothing of the ball and zero real threat the other end, against every single team we play against?!

We’re still giving away loads of chances and shots to the opposition, even in games we end up winning, and always having much less of the ball, every single game. It’s mind numbing and most of the time it’s a strategy that’s catches you out.

Against certain sides from the scab6 in the league, maybe we should set up like that, but we need to be doing more offensively against the leicesters and southamptons of the league.

We’re not difficult to beat under Dyche, we’re as dull as ditchwater and as predictable as a Tory mp on the fiddle.

Nath you really don't like him do you

 

[Saint Domingo]

Better managers make players better.

It’s often easier just to buy the better players though.

If we keep giving a succession of managers bottom half squads then we’ll keep getting those results.

Ancelotti was probably the last manager who had a squad that would have been in the top ten quality wise. Even then the differential between best and worst player is absolutely massive and way bigger than anyone else in the league. Not much use having the best number 10 in the league if you also have Mason Holgate Tom Davies Keane Coleman playing regularly.

All that’s happened since then is the quality has left through the door and what we’ve replaced with hasn’t been the same standard. There is not a single Evertonian who would rather have McNeil Harrison Beto Ndiaye Lindstrom over James Richarlison Gordon Iwobi Bernard Siggurdson Walcott. We may have all had our moments of ‘good riddance’ to some of these players at the end but quality wise and depth of quality as a group they are better.

We can keep looking for a needle in a haystack manager, and keep berating every manager we have for not being that manager, but it sure is a hell of a lot easier just to buy better players.

The day a manager is underperforming his squad quality is when I’ll go in hard on them. Hence my hatred of Koeman and my dislike of Martinez in the final 18 months, but it becomes a pointless task beating up managers for taking a bottom half squad and finishing…bottom half.

 

[NathDogg]

Nath you really don't like him do you

Whatever gave you that idea.

There was a time when I thought it would be interesting to go for a pint with the fella, but I think I’d get bored very, very quickly.

The Bournemouth debacle finished him for me as an Everton manager, and he’s done nothing to change my mind since.

Hoping we pick up enough points while he’s here, but we shouldn’t need to be relying on 3 teams being worse than us, it’s not good enough.

 

[Bob Elstone]

He’s an abysmal dinosaur of a manager. We get dominated at home in our final season at goodison by absolute dross clubs.

He’s as lucky as they come. Safest job in world football. Turgid anti football and poor results and never ever in trouble of losing his job.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

This is the exact state of affairs and always has been. People are getting extremely wound up from result to result but the big picture isn’t changing.

He was brought into to keep us up and see us through the PS&R storm whilst the club is sold.

The new owners will want their own manager upon the takeover whether that’s before the end of the season or at the end of his contract. Thats been reflected by the club in not offering a new contract.

I’ve not seen a single person on here who has been calling for Dyche to stay on long term, get a new long term deal, or claim he is the manager to take us forward. None. I’m sure someone will find an old quote from one person that they’ll take out of context and represent this as the will of the forum but anyone with half a brain cell can see that there is no widespread clamour on this forum for Dyche to stay on long term.

Even by his critics own admission though, the job has been done. Expectations that he raised himself are now that we are a mid table team with a mid table squad. If Dyche tanks against those expectations then it’s no issue as we can easily get someone else in post takeover who can finish ahead of thee teams with ease. If he doesn’t tank results then he’s gone at the end of his contract or whenever Friedkin want.

Historically under us he gets results when people think we won’t and doesn’t when people think we will, because we play badly one week under Dyche is not an indication we will the next week and vice versa. He’s broken bad runs of form in the past to stop them turning into death spirals.

He’s either gone in the summer, or earlier, but either way the job has been done in the derisking of Everton football club. I’ll say thankyou for delivering in an extremely difficult period for the club.

He has failed to pull out of two ‘death spirals’ at Burnley like .
He isn’t as copper bottomed as you may hope .