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2024/25 Sean Dyche

I don’t get the “remembered fondly” shouts. I imagine he will be remembered by those few who bought into his narrative of a relegation fight even before a ball was kicked and that he is some sort of miracle worker who is keeping the club afloat all on his own.

I will remember him as a one dimensional manager with no tactical acumen whatsoever. A manager who took no responsibility, who used excuse after excuse. A manager who seemed to take pleasure in gaslighting fans. For me he will be wiped from our history.
 
LouReedwalkonthewildside said:
I don’t get the “remembered fondly” shouts. I imagine he will be remembered by those few who bought into his narrative of a relegation fight even before a ball was kicked and that he is some sort of miracle worker who is keeping the club afloat all on his own.

I will remember him as a one dimensional manager with no tactical acumen whatsoever. A manager who took no responsibility, who used excuse after excuse. A manager who seemed to take pleasure in gaslighting fans. For me he will be wiped from our history.
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You really think this squad was better than 48 points last year?
 
MikeH72 said:
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Marius57 said:
What history are you reading that remembers Walter smith kindly?

Personally think he will be remembered in the same vein as Lampard and Benitez. Poor managers who left us on the brink of relegation.
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He's generally regarded as somebody who had to endure difficult circumstances. His last season was grim, but he had a really difficult job here. Brought in players like Campbell, Stubbs, Weir, Carsley and Gravesen all whilst selling off anything of value - Ferguson, Jeffers, Ball, Dunne etc and then there's the whole Dacourt/Matterazzi farce.

As I said, he deserved to go in the end, but lots of blues I speak to regard the job he did up to a point as being what was needed at the time and appreciate that it was a tumultuous period in the clubs history, and much like Dyche, it would be incredibly silly to lay it all at the feet of Walter.
 
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Victus said:
You really think this squad was better than 48 points last year?
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It was good enough for around mid - table, without the pts deduction that is where we would have finished. So he hit that goal.

So, it was good enough for 48 pts last season, and we have added to that squad, so why was Dyche hinting of a relegation fight even before a ball was kicked? Shouldn’t it be doing better this season? Why are was absolutely cack this season?
 
LouReedwalkonthewildside said:
It was good enough for around mid - table, without the pts deduction that is where we would have finished. So he hit that goal.

So, it was good enough for 48 pts last season, and we have added to that squad, so why was Dyche hinting of a relegation fight even before a ball was kicked? Shouldn’t it be doing better this season? Why are was absolutely cack this season?
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because we are crap? :lol: disagree?
 

Victus said:
You really think this squad was better than 48 points last year?
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Will you remember HIM fondly? I respect what Dyche achieved last season, but that doesn’t mean he’ll necessarily be looked back on fondly. Personally, I find it hard to connect with someone who made no effort to engage with the fanbase. Look at Allardyce—he came in, did his job well, but isn’t remembered fondly because of his attitude and lack of connection with supporters. Similarly Dyche did his job well last season, but that’s not enough to leave a lasting positive legacy and mean we should all look back like he's a genius. can't believe blues have brought into the miracle worker nonsense.

I’ll look back on the derby win, Brighton away, and Newcastle at home fondly. However, most of the other games were an absolute grind to sit through.
 
efcste97 said:
Will you remember HIM fondly? I respect what Dyche achieved last season, but that doesn’t mean he’ll necessarily be looked back on fondly. Personally, I find it hard to connect with someone who made no effort to engage with the fanbase. Look at Allardyce—he came in, did his job well, but isn’t remembered fondly because of his attitude and lack of connection with supporters. Similarly Dyche did his job well last season, but that’s not enough to leave a lasting positive legacy and mean we should all look back like he's a genius. can't believe blues have brought into the miracle worker nonsense.

I’ll look back on the derby win, Brighton away, and Newcastle at home fondly. However, most of the other games were an absolute grind to sit through.
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I think I will somewhat, yes. Anybody who kept us up whilst the world was falling beneath us would get my respect overall.
 

MikeH72 said:
We’re on course for under 38 points this season, so is it better than that? Last season doesn’t mean anything at the moment, he’s taken us backwards as it stands currently.
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I'd say 15th is probably where I'd expect us to be, yeah, we should however be on 17 points and sitting quite comfortable heading into Christmas. However we somehow collapsed against Bournemouth and that should have been the day he was sacked.
 
Victus said:
I think I will somewhat, yes. Anybody who kept us up whilst the world was falling beneath us would get my respect overall.
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I’ll respect him for what he’s done, but remembering him fondly? For me to remember something fondly I have to recall something from my past that I love and look back at with affection —no one who regularly attends matches is going to look back at Dycheball with affection.
 
efcste97 said:
Will you remember HIM fondly? I respect what Dyche achieved last season, but that doesn’t mean he’ll necessarily be looked back on fondly. Personally, I find it hard to connect with someone who made no effort to engage with the fanbase. Look at Allardyce—he came in, did his job well, but isn’t remembered fondly because of his attitude and lack of connection with supporters. Similarly Dyche did his job well last season, but that’s not enough to leave a lasting positive legacy and mean we should all look back like he's a genius. can't believe blues have brought into the miracle worker nonsense.

I’ll look back on the derby win, Brighton away, and Newcastle at home fondly. However, most of the other games were an absolute grind to sit through.
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Nobody has called him a genius. Will I remember him as fondly as say Moyes? Absolutely not, but then the remits and the landscape were totally different. I still look back on some of Martinez's time here with some fondness. I still reached a point where I wanted him gone though. It's entirely possible to both respect what a manager has done previously and accept that they might hit the buffers at some point.
 
efcste97 said:
I’ll respect him for what he’s done, but remembering him fondly? For me to remember something fondly I have to recall something from my past that I love and look back at with affection —no one who regularly attends matches is going to look back at Dycheball with affection.
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I said history will remember him "kindly." I didn't say we would all be sat there misty eyed, fondly looking back on the time he played percentages to drag us to safety twice.
 
John from Bootle said:
I said history will remember him kindly. I didn't say we would all be sat there misty eyed looking back on the time he played percentages to drag us to safety twice.
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I didn't see your post, apologies. I was replying to victus. Remembering him kindly is a bit different to remembering him fondly. Kept us up and did his job but it's got stale now, good chance it'll go right down to the wire if he stays.
 

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