2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[Groucho]

TFG mate aren’t paying this money

To keep Sean dyche it’s as simple as that either way

plus remember the Koemans etc

We’re all under the board we had dofs

This won’t and isn’t the same

“golden chance”

That’s exactly why they’ve bought us

And will have our nxt manager ready

Has someone bought you a haiku instruction manual for xmas?

 

[windymiller]

He’s got 5 points from the past three games

1 of which was a relegation rival and two sides near the top

Those are solid results

If he can keep that going then he’s getting results

Yeah, ok, if we take the last three games only. Does that mean we'll go unbeaten until the end of the season? Of course not, that would be an absurd extrapolation.

 

[pfim]

Couldn’t agree more. All those old players he’s built the team around and keeps starting like

Branthwaite 22
Garner 23
Iroegbunam 21
McNeil 25
Ndiaye 24
Mykolenko 25

Yeah, it's a lazy criticism.

 

[matty1878]

He might do in the summer. Not before.

we see mate

i want us to win games first foremost

 

[matty1878]

Friedkins only concern is staying in the top flight. Dyche will achieve that.

not saying he won’t mate

 

[matty1878]

Has someone bought you a haiku instruction manual for xmas?

ok i’ve heard this now a few times at me
but what’s a haiku mate?

isn’t it something they do in florida

 

[Drico]

Isn’t that benefit financial to the tune of about £10m which helps our PSR position plus the level of quality of player we can attract in the summer?

Not really. The PSR issues will effectively be resolved by the summer - and our new owners are properly rich, unlike the accountant who was dependent on dubious oligarch money to keep the lights on.

All money helps - but the point I am making is an extra few million for a higher finish in the table is not something that is essential to the new owners: avoiding relegation is. So, 17th is the baseline. Anything else is nice.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Friedkins only concern is staying in the top flight. Dyche will achieve that.

And if he does that they can always reassess the situation at the end of the season

 

[Clarky cat]

Dyche playing 4d chess. Not interested in scoring goals and trying to draw his way to safety meaning Everton will never be far enough away from the relegation places for people to think it’s “safe” to get rid of him, all the while ignoring the fact Dyche setting the team up to just try and keep a clean sheet at ALL costs is the reason Everton are there in the first place.

14 goals in 16 games, the type of stat even San Marino and Andorra would be ashamed of.

 

[matty1878]

And if he does that they can always reassess the situation at the end of the season

assess what? let’s go again lads with sean and achieve staying up every season

we’ve spent millions to only want to do this

ok mikey

 

[davek]

The fraud who got us back into Europe in his first season after 2 x 11th placed finishes under Martinez?

We wouldn’t have got relegated under Koeman. We finished 8th once the new players had settled in.

And the club spent 140m that summer, but also sold Lukaku. Stop lying to make a bad point. Where is the 250m figure plucked from?

You are completely making stuff up

His overall tenure of 16 months was around 200m

We finished 8th under Alardyce.

Talk about scraping the barrel: defending the Dutch fraud.

 

[matty1878]

Dyche playing 4d chess. Not interested in scoring goals and trying to draw his way to safety meaning Everton will never be far enough away from the relegation places for people to think it’s “safe” to get rid of him, all the while ignoring the fact Dyche setting the team up to just try and keep a clean sheet at ALL costs is the reason Everton are there in the first place.

i mean bournmouth last season looked like they would struggle they then was ok -
and now look at them

they don’t try and just sit off every game and contain

( waits for they have better players shout )

they may have some - goals i guess

but you play how your manager teaches you

so sean dyche.

 

[matty1878]

We finished 8th under Alardyce.

Talk about scraping the barrel: defending the Dutch fraud.

your defending the
ginger one dave

 

[Thomasc]

We finished 8th under Alardyce.

Talk about scraping the barrel: defending the Dutch fraud.

The fraud who got us back into Europe finishing 7th in his first season - Fact.

He was sacked after only winning 2 in 9, the trigger was pulled too quickly. Yes Allardyce took over and we finished 8th, with the players Koeman bought.

He also finished 6th and 7th with Southampton prior to joining Everton - Fact.

This is when our problems started, when we started sacking managers so frivolously.

 

[Zatara]

I'd probably have gotten two actual wingers, despite I am pleased with Ndiaye on that position so far, and also McNeil did decent at CAM. In the current squad, I actually would play Ndiaye winger as well, just because we have no other players in the squad that offers that much of a package needed for the position. I feel we are more effective mit McNeil CAM and Ndiaye LM than the other way round.

The bigger problem this season is creating chances at all, as we aren't 11th in creating big chances, we are 20th, not 8th at missing chances, we are 18th. This is a worrying decrease, because now it's not only the missing that's the problem, but also the creating in the open play.

It's a quality problem on one side, if you play Doucoure and Harrison, but also a tactical problem, as good Dyche does the job to make us good defensively with 25 clean sheets in 72 games here, he fails it to do the same offensively.

Absolutely, I am fine in games like vs Chelsea or Arsenal, yesterday he did good set up and also good ingame management, good subs, good adaptions in the 2nd half. But he doesn't in most of games.

As I said, we played some of the best football in the recent years against Bournemouth at home that was under the Dyche, it's what I expect to see against on paper top half teams every time. But he's not capable of doing it.

The good news is that at the end of the season we'll only have Ndiaye and McNeil who can play across the 3 behind the centre forward & as an added bonus will only hopefully have Chermiti as a centre forward option.

So we should be looking to bring in a high number of attacking players.

I wonder if we bring in a couple of good ones January, whether we may see Dyche bringing in a more effective attacking style.