2024/25 Sean Dyche

[Furey1878]

Lads come on, Evertonians absolutely love a good player bashing, they're just not enjoying it from Dyche

I personally just think that after a result like that, rather than giving interviews after the game, that the manager should publicly give himself lashings like that fella from the Da Vinci code who looks like Steven Naismith.

 

[Magus]

Ehh, you do remember Frank Lampard right?

Dyche should be skewered for giving up 10 goals in the first three matches. It's completely unacceptable. But given his history, I doubt that will continue.

I remember all of our managers going back to Harry Catterick, during which time I have endured teams and managers every bit as poor as our current crop, and I still don't share your faith that Dyche will somehow come good.

I would be overjoyed if he suddenly started to show a consistently progressive trend.

 

[degsy]

"Its not how one starts the race, but how one finishes it".

...and you only have to finish infront of the last 3 - yet again...for the 4th time in a row

Piece of cake

 

[Caolam]

Its fairly simple, perceive a weighing scales in your minds eye, on one side put three games lost with 105 points still to play for, on the other put two seasons first a hopeless cause, dead and buried in January with Demari Gray up front the second battered by the establishment - 8 points on a team who scraped survival the year before - two successful missions. Its illogical to me why you would move him on - it makes no sense and only destabilises and harms the club.

Loyalty and appreciation are rare commodity these days.

Eating cake is soon forgotten.

Unfortunately we are not in a locality based game. Come the end of the season, if we are in the bottom three, the Premier League isn’t going to say “ this is Everton, they have been with us from the start, they can stay up”. Players aren’t going to give 100% for a man and a system they don’t believe in.
I am not judging Sean Dyche on three games or indeed three seasons, he has had a long career managing football teams in the bottom half of the league or below. He has no record of winning anything.
I am an Evertonian of many many years and perhaps my judgement is coloured by having seen winning teams, personally I don’t see success as not being relegated, that is Sean Dyche’s level of success, I want better for this great club.

 

[Neiler]

Unfortunately we are not in a locality based game. Come the end of the season, if we are in the bottom three, the Premier League isn’t going to say “ this is Everton, they have been with us from the start, they can stay up”. Players aren’t going to give 100% for a man and a system they don’t believe in.
I am not judging Sean Dyche on three games or indeed three seasons, he has had a long career managing football teams in the bottom half of the league or below. He has no record of winning anything.
I am an Evertonian of many many years and perhaps my judgement is coloured by having seen winning teams, personally I don’t see success as not being relegated, that is Sean Dyche’s level of success, I want better for this great club.

None of that makes sense mate - there is no need for relegation hyperbole, we are three games into the season - there are 105 points still to be earned and competed for - no point coming up with scenarios that relegation is somehow a forgone conclusion - we were dead and buried in Feb 23 with Demari Gray up front and the manager enabled survival. You wouldn't be putting your money down on a binary bet on staying up or going down at the moment would you.

As we know and im sure all accept - where you finish in the league there is a direct correlation on what you spend both on wages and fees - there are multiple tables illustrating it - hes been at clubs including our own with negative net spends and little budget to spend on wages - we all know that. In that context in a year and half here and the adversity he faced and at Burnley via Europe for decade hes punched weigh above what resources hes been allowed. All the evidance is there.

Your judgement isnt coloured by seeing Everton win - ive seen it to - i can tell you what those times weren't governed by - chopping and changing the manager every six months - its not our way. Its only creeped in here under Moshri, and fans have been conditioned in to a chop and change culture of adrenaline rushes to change things.

The chest thumping about success and ambition around expectations is ridiculous as far as im concerned. Here's why, you get nothing for nothing, why do Everton deserve to be any better then we are at the moment, we've ran the club into the ground, we're the worst run club in the league, we have no money, huge debts and have had all that for years - why do we deserve to be any where else then where we are? - we dont, we deserve to be bsol;utley where we have been in the last three seasons for the holistic the performance of the entire club. Talking about having a higher ambition and standards based on our history is horse manure - you have to earn it - the whole club not just the footballing Dept. We dont deserve to be anywahere then we are on the whole club performance and actually lucky to be in the league really.

The end point of achieving ambition, is recovering the club, that is built on consistency and stability - there has to be a plan - we are seeing that evolution with the likes of Tim and Ndaiye come in and the other new players - we saw it for 87 mins on Saturday the transition. That recovery is a process, it takes work, it takes adversity and it takes time. Thumping your chest and saying you have ambition wont just make it happen and do it for you.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

None of that makes sense mate - there is no need for relegation hyperbole, we are three games into the season - there are 105 points still to be earned and competed for - no point coming up with scenarios that relegation is somehow a forgone conclusion - we were dead and buried in Feb 23 with Demari Gray up front and the manager enabled survival. You wouldn't be putting your money down on a binary bet on staying up or going down at the moment would you.

As we know and im sure all accept - where you finish in the league there is a direct correlation on what you spend both on wages and fees - there are multiple tables illustrating it - hes been at clubs including our own with negative net spends and little budget to spend on wages - we all know that. In that context in a year and half here and the adversity he faced and at Burnley via Europe for decade hes punched weigh above what resources hes been allowed. All the evidance is there.

Your judgement isnt coloured by seeing Everton win - ive seen it to - i can tell you what those times weren't governed by - chopping and changing the manager every six months - its not our way. Its only creeped in here under Moshri, and fans have been conditioned in to a chop and change culture of adrenaline rushes to change things.

The chest thumping about success and ambition around expectations is ridiculous as far as im concerned. Here's why, you get nothing for nothing, what do Everton deserve to be any better then we are at the moment, we've ran the club into the ground, we're the worst run club in the league, we have no money, huge debts and have had for years - why do we deserve to be any where else then where we are we dont. Its the performance the club holistically has posted. Talking about having a higher ambition and standards based on our history is horse manure - you have the earn it - the whole club not just the footballing Dept. We dont deserve more then what we have on the whole club performance.

The end point of achieving ambition, is recovering the club, that is built on consistency and stability - there has to be a plan - we are seeing that evolution with the likes of Tim and Ndaiye come in and the other new players - we saw it for 87 mins on Saturday the transition. That recovery is Addea process, it takes work, it takes adversity and it takes time. Thumping your chest and saying you have ambition wont just make it happen and do it for you.

Very true.
But sadly already far too late to recover what we once were .
Added to the fact the game in general is not what it once was, particularly in this sad little country , it is just product to be sold to gullible arm chair supporters.
I wish we could have left Goodison with a last hurrah , heads held high .
But it is now it is apparent our sad departure to a soulless plastic bowl will be cowed dog slinking out of the back door.
I am despondent about all things Everton currently.
Apathy has taken hold .

 

[Bob Elstone]

The prehistoric dinosaur isn’t the answer.

 

[helpimonfire]

Is he still here?

 

[Delargeinho]

Is he still here?

Indeed smiling politely at you.

 

[JelavicBrate2]

I agree, I don`t know about anyone else but I`m sick and tired of being crap and the but of every other supporters and media jokes.

I`m also sick of being told by our own fans that we have to accept this crap and I`m not allowed to want better for this club.

Dyche doesn`t survive last season in any other club in any other league yet we are stuck with this crap and our fans just accept it, it`s madness... We are circling the drain and if standards don`t improve very very soon we will go down this season.

That's my issue, we managed to get a 0-0 draw at Chelsea after playing 120 minutes against United at Wembley. Moyes wasn't perfect, but he got results with a limited budget. I have given up with a lot of our fans, Allardyce got us to 8th with a worse side. He's just taking the piss out our fans and you have clowns on here defending him. How many goals does Ashley Young given away? Yet he still plays week in week out, he just doesn't inspire any confidence in our players. At least Allardyce took piss out of Klopp.

 

[Lob]

I see the red echo are having a Dyche cheerleader day today. At least 4 articles about backing him, not being his fault and the best man for everton and the usual complete and utter bollox. Must have been paid a few bob. Not that many blues even visit that crap site any more mind.

 

[Delargeinho]

I see the red echo are having a Dyche cheerleader day today. At least 4 articles about backing him, not being his fault and the best man for everton and the usual complete and utter bollox. Must have been paid a few bob. Not that many blues even visit that crap site any more mind.

He must use his salary to bribe them

 

[Richie]

The prehistoric dinosaur isn’t the answer.

Which one? Dyche? Moyes? Stegosaurus?

 

[GrandOldSte117]

I see the red echo are having a Dyche cheerleader day today. At least 4 articles about backing him, not being his fault and the best man for everton and the usual complete and utter bollox. Must have been paid a few bob. Not that many blues even visit that crap site any more mind.

Some people have different opinions to yours. Doesn't mean they're being paid off. I certainly amn't receiving any money from the club or my father, er, I mean, Dyche....

 

[PeregrineT]

His 12% win rate over his 10 years in the prem shows me one thing … well one of two things.

He is stubborn and won’t change his approach or adapt and learn

Or

He is oblivious to situations that are obvious to others and does not change them.

His team selections also fall into these two categories

Either way…. We are screwed

Then why is his win rate in September, October and November so much better?