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2024/25 Sean Dyche

My view is that he wanted the likes of Phillips and McTomminay for 'PL experience' but was probably told that their wages and situations made them too expensive and he has thrown his toys out the pram a bit, hence not starting the new players and him mentioning about O'Brien being a club signing.

Was told Phillips wanted to come after weighing all his options, the deal was £6 mill for the year, between our share of the wages City wanted to pay and loan fee - when it came to it we didn't have access to the cash on the deadlines wanted.
 
Dyche's Everton PL stats are as bad Benitez Everton PL stats and yet Dyche is seen as a saviour to some (a decreasing minority tbf) when the truth is he is absolutely atrocious just like the Spanish waiter was. Both of them are among the worst managers the club has ever had. That is reality, not opinion. The figures don't lie.

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Someone like Graham Potter is 1.28 ppg at Brighton and 1.48ppg at Chelsea.

When you add in Dyche came in midseason and we were relegation zone, without a striker worthy of the name and a following full season of witch hunting and he spent nothing but on a limited pool of high structured deals, loans and fees and had nothing like the vaunted structures and players available at clubs like Brighton or Chelsea - its hard to make a compelling case for the flip.
 
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So what’s the point ?
We are a zombie club already.
Apathy and disinterest will kill us also , it just takes a little longer .
We have become the only club that cannot risk failure so we no longer compete or even pretend to compete we just cling on to survival .
What a sad , dismal little club we have become.
Just a bunch of cowards.
Runners.
So what’s the point ?
We are a zombie club already.
Apathy and disinterest will kill us also , it just takes a little longer .
We have become the only club that cannot risk failure so we no longer compete or even pretend to compete we just cling on to survival .
What a sad , dismal little club we have become.
Just a bunch of cowards.
Runners.
I know it's easy to say, but keep the faith. When we get back to somewhere near where we belong, these dark days make the highs so much better. As Churchill once said, "if you're going through hell, keep going". I truly believe we will have more good days than bad in the future. Probably makes me look like an idiot, but it's the reason I keep supporting this club in these depressing times.
 

It doesn't erase it, but that winless streak doesn't erase the overall outcome, which was a good one in the circumstances.

The memory of it has to be included of course, and if we continue to lose games there will be a tipping point where sacking the manager is the right decision. In my opinion, with our circumstances off the pitch, last seasons good performance and a lack of faith in the recruitment process I don't think we are there yet.

Amen

There’s a reality to the situation caused by the ownership. Which decent manager is going to take any job when they know a new owner could come in and remove them immediately?

Then there’s the financial reality of us sacking the existing manager before the end of his contract, paying him off, then hiring the new manager which would probably involve compensation to whatever club he was at if he was any good (I’ve heard any sort of unemployment, even voluntary, is unacceptable). Only to potentially repeat that process if a new owner wanted a different manager. It’s all money we don’t have.

We’ve got an interim board with no leadership whatsoever just waiting for the ownership paralysis to end.

Whether people like it or not, as long as we don’t look likely to go go down, we’re probably not changing manager until the ownership situation is resolved. At the end of the season we can exit the current manager for free and be far more attractive to any new manager with the new owner signing it off (if we’ve been sold)

It will be two and a half seasons of a job well done for Dyche, keeping the club up in his first few months, increasing the points tally the season after, and hopefully delivering us into the new stadium as a PL team with a better squad than he started. All whilst making trading profits ever summer window. There can then be a magnanimous parting of the ways.
 
We can go back further if people insist on using a wider spread of data, to the start of that season and include losses to Wolves, Fulham and Luton.
Won 10 of the last 30 league games. Which have been two purple patches.

Which included: Brentford X2, Burnley X2, Forest X2, Sheffield United.

We should be expecting to beat these teams as they are all recently promoted or relegated teams.

It did include wins vs Liverpool, Chelsea and Newcastle so fair play to him. Pickford was our motm in 2 of those games mind.
 
Do those who want him sacked based on 3 games fear what comes next at all? Another Lampard style appoint would be the last nail in the coffin imo.

Yes I fear for the next manager, I even said as much in one of my last posts on Dyche.

For me though, it's not about the 3 games we have lost, it's the manner we lost against B/mouth, even I could see the players were running on empty, so why on Gods green Earth didn't he make the subs that most could see needed making? Dyche is supposed to a defensive coach and not making those changes and giving up what could be a vital 3 points is enough for me.

He needs outing ASAP, I know, we got no money ETC, but his decision making at times is going to cost us more points than we are capable of earning with his style of football.

I have no confidence Mr Dyche can save us this year, obviously hope I'm wrong.

EFC 💙
 

Amen

There’s a reality to the situation caused by the ownership. Which decent manager is going to take any job when they know a new owner could come in and remove them immediately?

Then there’s the financial reality of us sacking the existing manager before the end of his contract, paying him off, then hiring the new manager which would probably involve compensation to whatever club he was at if he was any good (I’ve heard any sort of unemployment, even voluntary, is unacceptable). Only to potentially repeat that process if a new owner wanted a different manager. It’s all money we don’t have.

We’ve got an interim board with no leadership whatsoever just waiting for the ownership paralysis to end.

Whether people like it or not, as long as we don’t look likely to go go down, we’re probably not changing manager until the ownership situation is resolved. At the end of the season we can exit the current manager for free and be far more attractive to any new manager with the new owner signing it off (if we’ve been sold)

It will be two and a half seasons of a job well done for Dyche, keeping the club up in his first few months, increasing the points tally the season after, and hopefully delivering us into the new stadium as a PL team with a better squad than he started. All whilst making trading profits ever summer window. There can then be a magnanimous parting of the ways.
We won13 and failed to win 25, which ever order you post that in, it's not going to look very good. Someone posted recently that Dyche's record looks like a Welsh place name , I disagree, there would be far more W's in a 38 letter Welsh place name.
 
I'd be surprised if anyone viewed last seasons outcome and thought now is the time for change.

I do get that the loudest of the Dyche out brigade
have been waiting for an opportunity long before these 3 games, but that to me speaks to a bias rather than any sort of objectivity.

Dear god.

You must have very low expectations for Everton Football Club.
 
I rather thought of the period between February and December 2023, this was overall solid. We went a few games winless, but nothing to big worry about. The real downfall came 2024.


We were saved by 2-3 good spells last season and I think that's sometimes the way when you're a poor, but not catastrophically poor, side. Bournemouth under Howe regularly had 7-8 game spells where they looked unbeatable. Saved them a number of times. Their luck ran out eventually, mind...
 

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