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2024/25 Sean Dyche

It was ToffeeTV so why not just say so, and she at every opportunity defended everything, including not blaming him for the collapse at Bournemouth.

She clearly has a very close relationship with him following the BBC podcast and that comes across; so using her as reference to what he said is like listening to Loomer talking about Trump

And he said, in the presser yesterday that he watched the game 47 times over and still believes the subs were the right decision.

That sounds like a man taking responsibility for it

Out of curiosity I watched that piece on Toffee tv to listen to her, she wouldn’t have a bad word said about Dyche and defended him to the hilt, it was excuse after excuse from her.
 
Never liked his football , but I respected the person.
Until yesterday.
His refusal to accept any responsibility for his frankly amateurish in game management and leaving his players to shoulder the blame alone is despicable and self serving.
Lot of talk about the disruption to morale caused by Textor , but Dyche throwing his players under the bus may well be far more damaging to team spirit.
 
Dyches ego is going to get him sacked, the fact he mentions himself in the the same sentence as Pep is laughable.

He is just not interested in being liked by the fans, you can also see why some of the players don't like him either.

He is definitely on borrowed time without doubt

Good, neither is essential.

Its a bad manager who wants to be liked by everyone.
 

Out of curiosity I watched that piece on Toffee tv to listen to her, she wouldn’t have a bad word said about Dyche and defended him to the hilt, it was excuse after excuse from her.
Yeah it was a bit embarrassing in all honesty. She's grew close to him, fair enough, bit she's a journo at the end of the day.

How anyone looked at the game and blamed the players because "they're professionals" it a lunatic. Half their team replaced with fresh legs, and we have 35 year old Seamus Coleman, having only recently returned from numerous injuries and only played in mid-week
 
Out of curiosity I watched that piece on Toffee tv to listen to her, she wouldn’t have a bad word said about Dyche and defended him to the hilt, it was excuse after excuse from her.
Yes I said the same yesterday, basically saying ndaiye was tired like it was the correct decision, it’s basically like listening to the echo pod. They all think the sun shines out of Dyche’s arse.
What chance have we got when the only journalists out there, who have got a voice for the fans , just accept this mediocrity crap and have done for years.
 
The guy tells us all he watches the games, believes in the stats and studys everything no stone unturned.

Yet he persists to give Michael Keane minutes when the stats tell us that during Dyches time at Everton we have conceded 41 goals in the 1,669 minutes Michael Keane has been on the pitch (a goal every 38 minutes)
Well to
Be fair to Keene he was great in pre season,
Allegedly
 

Yeah it was a bit embarrassing in all honesty. She's grew close to him, fair enough, bit she's a journo at the end of the day.

How anyone looked at the game and blamed the players because "they're professionals" it a lunatic. Half their team replaced with fresh legs, and we have 35 year old Seamus Coleman, having only recently returned from numerous injuries and only played in mid-week

I must admit she had me cringing through most of what she was saying. I kept expecting her to produce a picture of Dyche out of her arse pocket and start salivating over it.
 
Yeah it was a bit embarrassing in all honesty. She's grew close to him, fair enough, bit she's a journo at the end of the day.

How anyone looked at the game and blamed the players because "they're professionals" it a lunatic. Half their team replaced with fresh legs, and we have 35 year old Seamus Coleman, having only recently returned from numerous injuries and only played in mid-week
100% this.
The guys are professionals, but professionals are not culpable to tiredness, fatigue or being 'under cooked'. The way you help these professionals from making mistakes is offer them every tool available to not do so........like 5 substitutions.

If its raining outside to you give a kid an umbrella or just tell them 'deal with it'
If you have scientist creating all sorts of scientific things, and they are looking fatigued......do you give them a break or just continue?
 
I suppose it’s not about being liked but at the end of the day you need the fans on your side.

I won’t go there but I think most experienced football fans who holistically understand the position of the club have a lot of respect for what he’s done and position he’s in. Most of the people I would respect opinion of on the game have that stance - interesting the lads on here who do, or understand the pragmatism required.

I think being liked is irrelevant, it’s part of the problem here, as fans we take our fair share of responsibility for the instability at the club - if we are talking about taking responsibility, we’ve built pressure to the point that managers have been sacked that could and prob should have had more time - hence we’ve had 7 over this Moshiri era. The club needs to be stronger in that and have conviction in their decision making not flip and flop on fans will, reboot after reboot and the cost of that, that’s impacted - that a problem at this club. It’s contributed to the hole we are in.

Fans liked “Lampard he fed them crap and most thought “he gets us” he didn’t care we were just being stage managed. Same with Martinez telling us that we were this great historical club, we are but it was irrelevant to the here and now - stage managed. Fans love this and it papers over the cracks of limits in ability.

Our hope is such that we have developed an inferiority complex - to other clubs and we have a worry of how our identity is perceived by others in football by having a Moyes, Allardyce or Dyche - clearly each made a contribution to the wellbeing of the club - but each weren’t tolerated come the end because of what we think our perceived persona should be and our own insecurity around it. If we are talking about taking responsibility and self reflection let’s do ourselves!

Only thing that matters is there is an impact on the wellbeing of the club, obviously the current manager has had a positive one from where he started to now.

I don’t want to like a manger, it’s irrelevant, I want the clubs wellbeing preserved during a time of holistic internal adversity and outside threat, until we can recover the club.

Neither the club or the manager should listen to fans, it’s part of the problem - the tail shouldn’t wag the dog.
 
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