Goodisongang
Player Valuation: £25m
What's he said in his interview? Haven't seen it
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Why do you call him Paul Quinn. Yrs I knkw that’s his name, but are you mates ? You both definitely spout nonsenseSo, how many games has he won, drawn and lost? (NB Don't worry, I can look those figures up easily enough) Just what does playing Long-ball football prove or even mean in the context of a 10 year career? Has he actually played long ball tactics in every single game he has managed, or have there been nuances, like for example, his first game in charge of us, where he played a defensive counterattacking game, and tried to limit Arsenal's possession? Has every outcome in each game been the same? What are you actually trying to prove? I'm genuinely interested
So, Dyche has played long-ball football all his career, and he has NEVER attempted to play 'football' (so what is long ball football then?) once; well I'll raise you the 0-6 defeat vs Chelsea last season. Again, I am not trying to drop a logical fallacy on you, by asking for burden of proof. However, could I simply ask, have you ever seen all 400+ games of Dyche's managerial career?
Thanks for the personal Ad Hominen attack BB72, most kind. (Again, like have I been under a rock?)
No, I merely mentioned that with the team he selected for the match against Soton, I inferred he got his tactics wrong for the players selected? I thought that that was quite easy to understand myself..?
Quoted from my initial reply at #12,076 see here;
""Yes, I get that the Soton game was a *hit* show, but if you look at the team he had available, he shouldn't have played long ball direct tactics anyway, it screamed out to try and control the ball and keep hold.
Beto can't keep hold of the ball, and NDiaye and Lindstrøm are not the answer at LWF and RWF with those tactics.""
Why does the actual number of changes matter anyway? Surely it depends on the quality and experience, of said players and the understanding of the managers tactics that count, and not numbers of changes? Or am I wrong here too?
By the way, the last time I looked, Soton are an EPL team, and they played us off the park...
Agreed, Paul Quinn has made many presumptions, assumptions, guesses that he thought were correct only to look like an idiot; but if you merely go back over El Bobbles transfer predictions over the last six windows, you will see at least six, and iirc many more instances where El Bobble has been wrong, and the same with team selections...
Anything else BB?
Or just throw thinly veiled insults at my footballing intelligence, my simple opinions or anything I post really.
Over to you mon ami
So you’ve picked out a couple of games he may have played slightly differently v arsenal and Chelsea. Well I’m sure there a few more over them 400, the bottom line is whatever the set up, 442, 3 at the back, 4411, 451. He sits back, has much less possession than the opposition, goes very direct, looks to mainly to have set pieces as his main weapon, he also averages 1 goal a game which is shocking don’t you think.
The caveat with arsenal, it was his first game, new manager = crowd on board and players on board. Now the crowd are bored out their brains and the players look lost. This is what happens when you win 5 in 30 and the manger how’s no clue how to change it or won’t attempt to, because he has 1plan.
Yes Southampton did play us off the park how embarrassing for dyche, but dyche doesn’t do embarrassed, he said so in his presser today, worst team in all top 5 league’s in Europe , but he’s ok wit that it’s all about nuts and bolts.
And all the transfers the bobble has got wrong, got any names Chief
Blue Tumbleweed
Player Valuation: £500k
Oh, OK dammit and blast, I've been found out... I just spout BS on here.
Isn't all this just a Tu quoque logical fallacy though?
By definition;
Pronounced too-kwo-kwee. Literally translating as 'you too' this fallacy is also known as the appeal to hypocrisy. It is commonly employed as an effective red herring because it takes the heat off someone having to defend their argument, and instead shifts the focus back on to the person making the criticism.
So BB72 claims that The Esk (Paul Quinn) is wrong at (many) predictions, but El Bobble is 95% right (and BB72 knows this how?), yet when I say that I have read (or seen things) where El bobble has been wrong, YOU BttB, who aren't even part of the conversation decides that I am talking BS, and because I won't waste time (the most precious commodity to mankind) to go looking for six examples, then that proves I am a BSer...
Err... OK, guilty as charged in your eyes, and anyone else feel free to 'assume' the same.
I knew this site was prickly at times, but jeez, some people take the proverbial biscuit...
Isn't all this just a Tu quoque logical fallacy though?
By definition;
Pronounced too-kwo-kwee. Literally translating as 'you too' this fallacy is also known as the appeal to hypocrisy. It is commonly employed as an effective red herring because it takes the heat off someone having to defend their argument, and instead shifts the focus back on to the person making the criticism.
So BB72 claims that The Esk (Paul Quinn) is wrong at (many) predictions, but El Bobble is 95% right (and BB72 knows this how?), yet when I say that I have read (or seen things) where El bobble has been wrong, YOU BttB, who aren't even part of the conversation decides that I am talking BS, and because I won't waste time (the most precious commodity to mankind) to go looking for six examples, then that proves I am a BSer...
Err... OK, guilty as charged in your eyes, and anyone else feel free to 'assume' the same.
I knew this site was prickly at times, but jeez, some people take the proverbial biscuit...
I’m asking a genuine question, you said he’s got loads wrong I’m asking you to point this out if it’s so obvious. The bobble has actually replied to Alan myers tweet tonight about Textor on his forum, but I won’t divulge on what he said. Most of us on here could name 10 things Paul Quinn has got wrong
I suppose the point is if we ever get near to being successful again it’s the likes of you who will be crying all over the internet for tickets to big games,
It's a forum. People can comment on any post. It's not a conversation.Oh, OK dammit and blast, I've been found out... I just spout BS on here.
Isn't all this just a Tu quoque logical fallacy though?
By definition;
Pronounced too-kwo-kwee. Literally translating as 'you too' this fallacy is also known as the appeal to hypocrisy. It is commonly employed as an effective red herring because it takes the heat off someone having to defend their argument, and instead shifts the focus back on to the person making the criticism.
So BB72 claims that The Esk (Paul Quinn) is wrong at (many) predictions, but El Bobble is 95% right (and BB72 knows this how?), yet when I say that I have read (or seen things) where El bobble has been wrong, YOU BttB, who aren't even part of the conversation decides that I am talking BS, and because I won't waste time (the most precious commodity to mankind) to go looking for six examples, then that proves I am a BSer...
Err... OK, guilty as charged in your eyes, and anyone else feel free to 'assume' the same.
I knew this site was prickly at times, but jeez, some people take the proverbial biscuit...
But judging by your posting style and the need for an adult to have to use so many emojis shows that yes you are an absolute spoofer.
Well you’ve hardly posted since being on nearly 2 years, bit bizarre. The esk got loads of transfers wrong, witsel, Mata etc, said we would pass PSR last season, has consistently got his figures wrong. Said Usmanov wasn’t involved at Everton, when the whole world knew he was, said Usmanov wouldn’t be able sell his 30% in arsenal, says he wouldn’t sell to Kroanke and Kroanke would buy off him. All 3 happenedOh, OK dammit and blast, I've been found out... I just spout BS on here.
Isn't all this just a Tu quoque logical fallacy though?
By definition;
Pronounced too-kwo-kwee. Literally translating as 'you too' this fallacy is also known as the appeal to hypocrisy. It is commonly employed as an effective red herring because it takes the heat off someone having to defend their argument, and instead shifts the focus back on to the person making the criticism.
So BB72 claims that The Esk (Paul Quinn) is wrong at (many) predictions, but El Bobble is 95% right (and BB72 knows this how?), yet when I say that I have read (or seen things) where El bobble has been wrong, YOU BttB, who aren't even part of the conversation decides that I am talking BS, and because I won't waste time (the most precious commodity to mankind) to go looking for six examples, then that proves I am a BSer...
Err... OK, guilty as charged in your eyes, and anyone else feel free to 'assume' the same.
I knew this site was prickly at times, but jeez, some people take the proverbial biscuit...
. When Covid hit said the ground build won’t start till 2025. Said Textor not interested in Everton.Your turn
Blue Tumbleweed
Player Valuation: £500k
Oh, OK my bad BttB. I'll remember that in future.
Why, you are 'judging' me on my posting style? I thought I was on a football forum, where I can post opinions, not state opinions as if they were facts?
I've seen your posting style; it is nearly always the same as far as I can see.
You make a case, or state (start?) an argument, and then you try to belittle and berate any poster who deigns to offer an alternative or contradictory response or reply, or simply doesn't do what you WANT them to do..... Which just leads to personal attack, after personal attack... Sometimes with your forum buddies jumping in to help out by also proverbially kicking at your target...
E.g. "But judging by your posting style and the need for an adult to have to use so many emojis shows that yes you are an absolute spoofer."
Which is so hurtful, and truly representative that I may never post again on here *boo-hoo* NB Is that better? No emojis...
I'll keep my judgement of you to myself.
As for emoji's and their use, it helps lighten conversations, makes points in simple pictures which sometimes goes a long way to help clarify something you want to say. Especially, as just using a keyboard isn't very nuanced, and it is sometimes really hard to 'understand' just what is meant by a remotely written post. No emotion, no eye-to-eye contact, hence why I try and use literary wording.
Carry on as you wish it is like pixelated rain of a pixelated ducks back.
Good wishes kind Sir *bows courteously*
Personal attacks . Repeatedly.
Back that up or apologise.
Blue Tumbleweed
Player Valuation: £500k
So what, I like to lurk, especially with the amount of vitriol regularly dished out on here. Fortunately, after those two years I'm out of diapers now, and I hope I won't wilt under the pressure.
Yes, I know all that.. The esk got loads of transfers wrong, witsel, Mata etc, said we would pass PSR last season, has consistently got his figures wrong. Said Usmanov wasn’t involved at Everton, when the whole world knew he was, said Usmanov wouldn’t be able sell his 30% in arsenal, says he wouldn’t sell to Kroanke and Kroanke would buy off him. All 3 happened
Your turn
Sorry..?
I didn't ask you to name me, or tell me what The Esk (any better?) has got wrong, I asked you to tell me the 95% accurate reporting that El Bobble has got right please.
In fact looking back at the first few exchanges, you haven't answered anything I've asked properly? Yet, when I discount some of your responses as inaccurate or ask for proof, you ignore them, and start another angle to prove what, I still don't know.
I don't want to fall out with anyone (else I'll just go back to lurking as my feelings would be hurt) but could I ask you three simple yes or no questions please?
If yes, here are the questions;
i) Did Dyche playing his dour football manage to keep us up in 22/23?
ii) Did Dyche playing his dour football manage to keep us up in 23/24?
iii) Will Dyche playing his dour football manage to keep us up in 24/25? Bear in mind he has a better squad (allegedly) but is struggling with players fitness, and illness.
Good wishes BB72
Blue Tumbleweed
Player Valuation: £500k
No, it is there to see, QED your personal attacks on Damo and others.
If you were walking down the street and heard two people talking, and you thought "I'll join in (when uninvited)" and personally insulted one of the two people in conversation, what do you think would happen?
Oh and apologise to someone who insults me, and defames my name and character..?
"But judging by your posting style and the need for an adult to have to use so many emojis shows that yes you are an absolute spoofer. @12096
"I do believe yes you are talking bs" @12089
Get real!
Or what? You going to threaten me over something that is literally written all over this sites pages?
Talk about a keyboard warrior...
I reported your original comment. And this one. I have damo on ignore and do not engage with him
So you are making up stories and telling lies about me.
So that proves you are a spoofer and talking bs.
Also as explained its a forum so it's not a private conversation. You are struggling with that concept .
Maybe you should go lurk again if you don't want people commenting on posts you make.
Fair enough
But I'm not going to be accused of making repeated threats on posters when it is blatantly not true.
I will not accept that allegation