2024/25 Sean Dyche

[Exeter_Gently]

Anything in rumours it was senior players that took half time team talk on Saturday?

It's not rumour.. Coleman piped up the dressing room after Dyche had said his piece.

Nothing unusual but something will be made of it, like everything else at the minute.

 

[Marius57]

"Dyche lovers" describes people who see things in the round - that he's landed here with a thankless task and no cash or even support above him from a stewardless, rudderless club to save one of the great English football institutions from relegation - at a point when the British football media and the powers that be in the Premier League were determined to see us into the Championship.

If he keeps us up for the third season running - which he will - he'll have completed a remarkable story in this club's history. To walk into this catastrophe and keep his nerve and see us through to new ownership and a new stadium is a fantastic achievement.

The stick he's getting reflects on his detractors much more than it does on him. He'll get a standing ovation at the end of the season and he'll be wished all the best by the vast majority of Everton fans for what he's managed to do here.

Why is his target only to “keep us up”? His job is to improve us. He led us to enough points for 12th last season.

If he “manages to keep us up” this season, it’s because he has led us to another relegation battle rather than looking to consolidate a mid table points total. And he is culpable in that due to his pressers and talking about relegation constantly,

You disappoint me with how much your expectations of this club have lowered.

 

[blueboy72]

Why is his target only to “keep us up”? His job is to improve us. He led us to enough points for 12th last season.

If he “manages to keep us up” this season, it’s because he has led us to another relegation battle rather than looking to consolidate a mid table points total. And he is culpable in that due to his pressers and talking about relegation constantly,

You disappoint me with how much your expectations of this club have lowered.

It’s called the kenwright effect. I wonder how all them fans who kicked off at the blue Union and clapped him on the screen, feel now. Had we got him out earlier, there would have been no Moshiri and maybe the stadium on the dock.

 

[NathDogg]

Young mentioned the ‘skips’ team talk at half time. seamus must have tore a strip off them all.

Dychey was too busy picking his nose and eating it to give the team talk, what a manager.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Why is his target only to “keep us up”? His job is to improve us. He led us to enough points for 12th last season.

If he “manages to keep us up” this season, it’s because he has led us to another relegation battle rather than looking to consolidate a mid table points total. And he is culpable in that due to his pressers and talking about relegation constantly,

You disappoint me with how much your expectations of this club have lowered.

His job is to improve us.

We went from needing the final home game of the season to stay up, for two successive seasons - to, as you say, finishing "12th" if you remove the deduction.

But let's have it right - even last season, it still took us 34 league games to earn the 40 points (if you put the deducted points back) you look for to stay up.

That dictates relegation scrap for most of the season. Until we've earned 40 points, we're all going to be stressing - and if we dont earn that until 30+ games, then most of the season we're stressing.

We then didn't spend a penny, again. 0 investment into the squad for the 3rd summer running.

There's a reason we were joint 4th favourites with Forest to go down.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I remember when you used to put effort into your baiting.

Reading this is like watching lee Evans in 2018, used to be funny back in the day but now hes trying too hard and its just all a bit sad now.

Do you not think Dyche has done well keeping us in the Prem?

This was a week before we hired him.

Badly run clubs get relegated, we had enough warning signs/chances to change it and we didn't.

Unfortunately the fan base realised too late what was happening to change anything.

Fans don't deserve to be relegated but christ all mighty if any club deserves it its this one.

As much as I agree with you id say its too late anyway now.

Got to win 8 out of 18 games to stay up itd be a massive ask to any manager. Let alone the dross we'll be linked with because of this inept board.

Whoever is coming in has to have one eye on the championship let's be honest.

Personally reckon it'll be Rooney. Did well in the championship, had no money, had to promote from the academy and "gets the club".

We're everton football club ffs we should be able to attracted the best up and coming coaches in the world. Not the elite obviously but the next level down and We're literally having to scrap the bottom of the barrel because the board is still living in 2007.

You've said there, a massive ask for any manager to keep us up. He achieved it.

Since then, we've had point deductions and sold more than we've spent. Still stayed up.

Short memories. You can still say you want him gone, without dicrediting what he's done.

Too many are too quick to downplay the state the club was, and still is in.

 

[davek]

It's not rumour.. Coleman piped up the dressing room after Dyche had said his piece.

Nothing unusual but something will be made of it, like everything else at the minute.

The fact that the 'leak' was from Dyche's favourite 'son' in the squad should tell even the most-feeble minded there's nothing to see here.

The desperation of the managerial-merry-go-round fans on this thread is hilarious.

They just cant hold their water can they? They cant just get to May with us safe - again - and wave Dyche off to his likely end of contract. They have to jump up and down and shout like spoilt kids for a dismissal that wont ever come now. They're pathetic.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

The fact that the 'leak' was from Dyche's favourite 'son' in the squad should tell even the most-feeble minded there's nothing to see here.

The desperation of the managerial-merry-go-round fans on this thread is hilarious.

They just cant hold their water can they? They cant just get to May with us safe - again - and wave Dyche off to his likely end of contract. They have to jump up and down and shout like spoilt kids for a dismissal that wont ever come now. They're pathetic.

Whether you like Dyche or not it's all becoming very petty now.

Captains often have a big say in the dressing room but this will be met with 'he can't even do a HT team talk' which he did because he mentioned in his presser what he said to them at HT.

Listen I've not been impressed with Dyche this season so I can't be accused of being a "Dyche fanboy" not that am bothered anyway, but people need to think about the needless negativity they're creating over the smallest things.

 

[davek]

Whether you like Dyche or not it's all becoming very petty now.

Captains often have a big say in the dressing room but this will be met with 'he can't even do a HT team talk' which he did because he mentioned in his presser what he said to them at HT.

Listen I've not been impressed with Dyche this season so I can't be accused of being a "Dyche fanboy" not that am bothered anyway, but people need to think about the needless negativity their creating over the smallest things.

Just leave them to stew in their own piss.

I cant take seriously anyone who sees Dyche's time here as a waste and who emphasise the quality of the football.

It's bizarre.

 

[NathDogg]

The fact that the 'leak' was from Dyche's favourite 'son' in the squad should tell even the most-feeble minded there's nothing to see here.

The desperation of the managerial-merry-go-round fans on this thread is hilarious.

They just cant hold their water can they? They cant just get to May with us safe - again - and wave Dyche off to his likely end of contract. They have to jump up and down and shout like spoilt kids for a dismissal that wont ever come now. They're pathetic.

I think it’s more telling that Young has singled out the captains words and not the managers, but you spin it whatever way you wish Dave.

I think people were seriously questioning this wonderful managers ability to get us safe by May, again, hence the calls for his head.

This was on the evidence of his tactics, team selections, game management and substitutions for all of this season and much of the last one, as he has proven quite ineffective at winning football matches and doing what he is supposed to do best, by providing a defensive base for the team to go on and win games.

The win over palace, although very welcome and I hope and pray for many more wins quickly, allayed non of those fears for me. I’ll take wins any way I can at the minute, but anyone with eyes can see we’re bad.

I hope that you and others who seem to be totally behind our manager are right, and we are safe long before May, as dyche will have won many more games.

I have no issue with people wanting him out, I don’t think he’s is anywhere near good enough for our club but I also have no real issue with people wanting him to stay, although I struggle to understand their reasoning for this, especially now the ownership issue is soon to be resolved.

As you infer, I don’t thing TFG will tolerate his current performance, and may make changes as soon as possible after the takeover is confirmed - I hope they have the luxury of not needing to, and Dyche and the team can win plenty more points over the next few months to provide that luxury.

I don’t think it’s fair to call any fans who aren’t happy with what they have seen from the manager “pathetic”, and I don’t think it’s fair to say they just want another go on the managerial merry go round - people are genuinely worried about our form and us staying up this season, watching the dross we’ve been served under the manager.

 

[MikeH72]

Why is his target only to “keep us up”? His job is to improve us. He led us to enough points for 12th last season.

If he “manages to keep us up” this season, it’s because he has led us to another relegation battle rather than looking to consolidate a mid table points total. And he is culpable in that due to his pressers and talking about relegation constantly,

You disappoint me with how much your expectations of this club have lowered.

If he finishes 17th this season then he has taken us backwards, yet his weird acolytes will be dancing in the streets and hailing him as a miracle worker. He’s manifested this mentality himself though, he put us in a relegation battle before a ball had been kicked by constantly talking about how impossible his job is. Were Iraola, Glasner, Frank and Silva preparing their fans for a relegation battle all summer I wonder? All teams that finished around or below us last season and all lost key players in the summer.

 

[Drico]

Dyche was favourite to be next manager sacked in the PL going into the weekend on the Paddy Power site. Now there are 4 with shorter odds on front of him to get the boot

Which neatly reflects that we would have been among the favourites for relegation going into the weekend, and now there is a sense that there may be 4 worse than us.

Sentiment will vacillate all season from week to week.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

When he's gone the only applause he'll be getting off me is a slow hand clap as he's volleyed out the door. He's not going to be one of our previous managers who I will look back on fondly.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

I think it’s more telling that Young has singled out the captains words and not the managers, but you spin it whatever way you wish Dave.

I think people were seriously questioning this wonderful managers ability to get us safe by May, again, hence the calls for his head.

This was on the evidence of his tactics, team selections, game management and substitutions for all of this season and much of the last one, as he has proven quite ineffective at winning football matches and doing what he is supposed to do best, by providing a defensive base for the team to go on and win games.

The win over palace, although very welcome and I hope and pray for many more wins quickly, allayed non of those fears for me. I’ll take wins any way I can at the minute, but anyone with eyes can see we’re bad.

I hope that you and others who seem to be totally behind our manager are right, and we are safe long before May, as dyche will have won many more games.

I have no issue with people wanting him out, I don’t think he’s is anywhere near good enough for our club but I also have no real issue with people wanting him to stay, although I struggle to understand their reasoning for this, especially now the ownership issue is soon to be resolved.

As you infer, I don’t thing TFG will tolerate his current performance, and may make changes as soon as possible after the takeover is confirmed - I hope they have the luxury of not needing to, and Dyche and the team can win plenty more points over the next few months to provide that luxury.

I don’t think it’s fair to call any fans who aren’t happy with what they have seen from the manager “pathetic”, and I don’t think it’s fair to say they just want another go on the managerial merry go round - people are genuinely worried about our form and us staying up this season, watching the dross we’ve been served under the manager.

To be fair mate both sides of the fence are throwing barbs at each other over the manager.

Which is mad...he'll live and die by his results,especially when TFG take over but think everyone just needs to settle down a bit coz it gets a bit hysterical.

That dressing room stuff is a nonsense.

 

[MikeH72]

To be fair mate both sides of the fence are throwing barbs at each other over the manager.

Which is mad...he'll live and die by his results,especially when TFG take over but think everyone just needs to settle down a bit coz it gets a bit hysterical.

That's dressing room stuff is a nonsense.

I remember when everyone said that about the Patterson slap.