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2024/25 Sean Dyche

I don't normally pay attention to the Echo. But Ball gets it right when he described our first half performance against Palace as terrible and unexplainable. We got away with it and its a relief to get 3 points. But why our awful tactics allowing Palace to walk all over us in the first half? Dyche needs to address this. The Saudis will batter us on Saturday if we repeat that.
Yes he does but it was that much a stating the obvious piece i thought he was gonna conclude it by giving detailed instructions on how to suck eggs. I agree we need to be much better on Saturday than we have been though.
 
….Onana has all the attributes to play for the top clubs but I was always concerned about his attitude/application, which I think is part of the reason Dyche left him out at times.

You could see teammates persuading him to carry on when he went down injured and there were reports of him asking to come off at half-time, sometimes because of tiredness. I always remember that towering header at Burnley (I think) but I never really trusted him when the going got tough.
yeah, unless something changes with him in terms of his mentality I don’t see him making the very top, but maybe that’s the gift of the top managers, they can instill that fighting, competitive spirit.
 
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It’s amazing how a different of opinion and a clash of ‘online’ personalities really bring out the

yeah, unless something changes with him in terms of his mentality I don’t see him making the very top, but maybe that’s the gift of the top managers, they can instill that fighting, competitive spirit.

….i think teammates are a big influence. Those top players with top attitude can make a difference to those who are more fragile, imagine playing alongside Peter Reid and Andy Gray.
 
….i think teammates are a big influence. Those top players with top attitude can make a difference to those who are more fragile, imagine playing alongside Peter Reid and Andy Gray.
Yes absolutely, the culture of the club is essential to that…driven by the management team and by team mates but it all stems from the manager in footballing terms. Thinking of Alex Ferguson in particular.
 
Ahh do Brighton is at home is an acceptable loss then mate, give over we finished equal on point to them last season

I'm not anti-Dyche at all but listened to the Toffee TV lads earlier on, and they made the point that it's almost like the players are convinced we are terrible and can't be expected to win. I think it's filtered down a bit.

It's what kind of does my head in about the continual slow starts. They just get into their head, from the manager down we will be lucky to have a miracle survival.

I see people talk about us like we are certainties to go down, when we got enough points to be safe by early December last season. Its total nonsense, but it gets perpetuated by the club.
 

I'm not anti-Dyche at all but listened to the Toffee TV lads earlier on, and they made the point that it's almost like the players are convinced we are terrible and can't be expected to win. I think it's filtered down a bit.

It's what kind of does my head in about the continual slow starts. They just get into their head, from the manager down we will be lucky to have a miracle survival.

I see people talk about us like we are certainties to go down, when we got enough points to be safe by early December last season. Its total nonsense, but it gets perpetuated by the club.

It suits certain people narratives.

We are that bad it's a miracle if we stay up. Thus the people responsible are miracle workers.

Very easy to see in whose interest it is to push this nonsense
 
….i think teammates are a big influence. Those top players with top attitude can make a difference to those who are more fragile, imagine playing alongside Peter Reid and Andy Gray.

I testing take from Michael Ball today in the echo mate.

Criticised him but also pointed out in his opinion the arm waving was to teammates who were for want of a better word hiding and not showing for the ball.

Watched the game back earlier, and yeah didn't notice it live but watch whenever he receives it he has absolutely zero options and young is 25y away. Similar thing I noticed with Ndiaye getting the ball too btw but he's the kind who can wriggle out of a mess
 
WTF is this about? clearly written prior to the weekend's three points!

Good Football Man Sean Dyche deserves to be thought of fondly at Everton​

Barney Ronay
Barney Ronay


New owners likely to bring manager’s time at club to an end but he has played a huge part in keeping them afloat
Fri 27 Sep 2024 16.00 EDT
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“This is great news for our wider region, hopefully now it can turn the page and move forward.” The words there of Steve Rotheram, the Liverpool city region mayor, sounding very much like the kind of silk-hatted mayor in a Batman film who says stuff like this to a cheering crowd from the steps of City Hall shortly before being garrotted by the latest colourful maniac with an oedipus complex.

On this occasion, however, the glad-handing feels entirely justified. The news this week that Everton’s takeover by the Friedkin Group has been confirmed really does feel like that rarest of things, good news for the club, the city, the league and pretty much everyone concerned.


The Everton manager, Sean Dyche, applauds the fans during the game against Aston Villa.
Sean Dyche determined to manage Everton at new stadium next season
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Admittedly, given what went before, that bar is set very low. The Friedkin Group is a real, actual business with offices and a bank account. Dan Friedkin runs a sharp-teethed global company that trades in non-dark, vaguely comprehensible assets. He looks like a minor cousin at a wedding in Succession. He’s not obviously insane. This feels like progress.

True, this is the same ownership that appointed José Mourinho at Roma, but there is no evidence the same individuals will be running Everton’s football operation. In any case appointing Mourinho seems to be a phase you just have to go through as an owner, like teenagers listening to death metal. At the very least, appointing Mourinho once means there is zero chance you’re going to appoint him again. Late José seems to have become a kind of footballing measles. A necessary fever. But you only need to have it once.


No doubt there will be a sense of double take for many supporters. After years of jeopardy, carpet-baggers and vulture capitalists with revolving bow ties, there is now a real prospect of Everton finding themselves in a new stadium, with £600m of manageable debt and being run by grownups. Why shouldn’t this happen? This club was never meant to be a vale of tears or hostage to overblown ambition. Everton should be able to exist happily, to be a fun club with a good fanbase and a realistic sense of its own reach. Maybe, just maybe, this is going to be all right.

At which point spare a thought for Sean Dyche, who is in danger of becoming the ghost at the feast in the middle of all this light and hope. His contract is up in June. New owners like new things. Exit music is already playing faintly. But the fact is Dyche has also played a huge role in basically saving the club over the last 20 months, has kept that burning zeppelin on course for the landing strip at a time when the whole thing could quite easily have folded in on itself.


I am biased on this topic, in that I just really like Dyche as a spectacle, a presence, a look. Ideally this is classic Dyche: ginger buzzcut, iconic horseshoe beard, shiny shoes, black trousers, white shirtsleeves, like a policeman washing the dishes. And yes Dyche will always be called a dinosaur, and a fossil (basically anything old: a harpsichord, a horse-drawn train). But he has also kept Everton up two years in row despite the double blow of a points deduction and inheriting a Frank Lampard team. He deserves at the very least to be remembered as part of the cure.

This isn’t an easy thing to feel right now. Everton have been terrible this season, and in a weird way. On the surface this is still Full Dyche. Second lowest for possession stats in Europe (go, Empoli), but also No 1 in the Premier League for tackles and blocks. And yet for all these indicators of resistance they also keep throwing away leads. There are gaping holes in the team. Dyche can’t do his Dyche thing – good in both boxes, midfield a hell-zone – with players who tire chasing the ball.

Sean Dyche celebrates the victory over Bournemouth that ensured Everton’s Premier League survival in 2023
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Sean Dyche celebrates the victory over Bournemouth that ensured Everton’s Premier League survival in 2023. Photograph: Will Palmer/Getty Images/Allstar
Is it any surprise this has happened? This current Everton has been hurled together through the fever dream of the last few years. Money has been hosed in then clawed back, to the tune of £100m profit on transfer fees in Dyche’s own time. Survival has been an exercise in minimalism, in a way that is both pragmatic and also very funny.


Dyche’s Everton have won 23 games, mainly against a small pool of hand-picked opponents. Nine percent of all his victories at Everton have come against Doncaster. League survival basically boils down to eight wins against Burnley, Brentford and Bournemouth. Last season’s escape was based on five in six from November into December when the right parts aligned. He can find this energy again. Crystal Palace this weekend and a jazzed-up home crowd already looks like an opportunity.

Beyond that, it seems clear Dyche himself is unlikely to be part of the clear blue future. Most likely he sees his contract out and is replaced in the summer by a 27-year old kite-surfing Austrian in a gingham blazer and jodhpurs. All of which raises the wider question of wither Dyche and Dyche-ism now?

Not personally. The Dyche brand is strong. He could, if he chooses, pivot into a media career very easily. I would definitely listen to a tough love Sean Dyche podcast on male wellbeing. The Dyche-vehicle TV pitch meetings write themselves. Dyche on a Bike: Sean Dyche tours the UK’s coastal paths on a bicycle. Van Dyche: Sean Dyche drives around in a van. Dyche’s Reich: Sean Dyche takes a deep dive into the enduring lessons of Nazi Germany. Live and Let Dyche: thriller in which an undercover Sean Dyche foils a Caribbean drug cartel and also debunks the tarot card industry.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/sep/26/everton-takeover-friedkin-group
The wider narrative is the continuing death of a certain strain of classically British manager. With David Moyes in standby mode there is no one else in the top tier so comfortable trying to win without the ball, so fixed on high-contact defending as a primary tactic. Dyche may now become a promotion guy or a relegation-avoidance guy. But he also took Burnley into Europe with these tactics as his start point.


And while it has become fashionable to rail against anything that isn’t obviously “attacking football”, defensive organisation remains the bedrock of the spectacle, the hard carbs that add value to every other team’s ability to counter this, demanding a basic level of physicality and resistance. The league is aways a better place with a Dyche-template team in it.

Quite simply, he is just a Good Football Man. There is a habit among managers to see a season in the Premier League as a personal branding opportunity, a showpiece for a style, for your own fan appeal. Dyche will work himself into a hole trying to keep you there by any means, will do a job as opposed to a job interview. The attitude, the shapes, the energy will be right. Nothing will fall apart. This is what he brought to Everton in the crisis years, a place that really could have begun to drift into the realm of the unwell.

At the very least he deserves to be acknowledged as a key part of the life raft. Perhaps in the bright new waterside future we might even find a Dyche Bar, a Dyche footbridge, a Dyche popcorn concession. And, in time, a little fond nostalgia for those moments of living dangerously.
"Everton should be able to exist happily, to be a fun club with a good fanbase and a realistic sense of its own reach." What a patronising bellend.
 

WTF is this about? clearly written prior to the weekend's three points!

Good Football Man Sean Dyche deserves to be thought of fondly at Everton​

Barney Ronay
Barney Ronay


New owners likely to bring manager’s time at club to an end but he has played a huge part in keeping them afloat
Fri 27 Sep 2024 16.00 EDT
Share


“This is great news for our wider region, hopefully now it can turn the page and move forward.” The words there of Steve Rotheram, the Liverpool city region mayor, sounding very much like the kind of silk-hatted mayor in a Batman film who says stuff like this to a cheering crowd from the steps of City Hall shortly before being garrotted by the latest colourful maniac with an oedipus complex.

On this occasion, however, the glad-handing feels entirely justified. The news this week that Everton’s takeover by the Friedkin Group has been confirmed really does feel like that rarest of things, good news for the club, the city, the league and pretty much everyone concerned.


The Everton manager, Sean Dyche, applauds the fans during the game against Aston Villa.
Sean Dyche determined to manage Everton at new stadium next season
Read more
Admittedly, given what went before, that bar is set very low. The Friedkin Group is a real, actual business with offices and a bank account. Dan Friedkin runs a sharp-teethed global company that trades in non-dark, vaguely comprehensible assets. He looks like a minor cousin at a wedding in Succession. He’s not obviously insane. This feels like progress.

True, this is the same ownership that appointed José Mourinho at Roma, but there is no evidence the same individuals will be running Everton’s football operation. In any case appointing Mourinho seems to be a phase you just have to go through as an owner, like teenagers listening to death metal. At the very least, appointing Mourinho once means there is zero chance you’re going to appoint him again. Late José seems to have become a kind of footballing measles. A necessary fever. But you only need to have it once.


No doubt there will be a sense of double take for many supporters. After years of jeopardy, carpet-baggers and vulture capitalists with revolving bow ties, there is now a real prospect of Everton finding themselves in a new stadium, with £600m of manageable debt and being run by grownups. Why shouldn’t this happen? This club was never meant to be a vale of tears or hostage to overblown ambition. Everton should be able to exist happily, to be a fun club with a good fanbase and a realistic sense of its own reach. Maybe, just maybe, this is going to be all right.

At which point spare a thought for Sean Dyche, who is in danger of becoming the ghost at the feast in the middle of all this light and hope. His contract is up in June. New owners like new things. Exit music is already playing faintly. But the fact is Dyche has also played a huge role in basically saving the club over the last 20 months, has kept that burning zeppelin on course for the landing strip at a time when the whole thing could quite easily have folded in on itself.


I am biased on this topic, in that I just really like Dyche as a spectacle, a presence, a look. Ideally this is classic Dyche: ginger buzzcut, iconic horseshoe beard, shiny shoes, black trousers, white shirtsleeves, like a policeman washing the dishes. And yes Dyche will always be called a dinosaur, and a fossil (basically anything old: a harpsichord, a horse-drawn train). But he has also kept Everton up two years in row despite the double blow of a points deduction and inheriting a Frank Lampard team. He deserves at the very least to be remembered as part of the cure.

This isn’t an easy thing to feel right now. Everton have been terrible this season, and in a weird way. On the surface this is still Full Dyche. Second lowest for possession stats in Europe (go, Empoli), but also No 1 in the Premier League for tackles and blocks. And yet for all these indicators of resistance they also keep throwing away leads. There are gaping holes in the team. Dyche can’t do his Dyche thing – good in both boxes, midfield a hell-zone – with players who tire chasing the ball.

Sean Dyche celebrates the victory over Bournemouth that ensured Everton’s Premier League survival in 2023
View image in fullscreen
Sean Dyche celebrates the victory over Bournemouth that ensured Everton’s Premier League survival in 2023. Photograph: Will Palmer/Getty Images/Allstar
Is it any surprise this has happened? This current Everton has been hurled together through the fever dream of the last few years. Money has been hosed in then clawed back, to the tune of £100m profit on transfer fees in Dyche’s own time. Survival has been an exercise in minimalism, in a way that is both pragmatic and also very funny.


Dyche’s Everton have won 23 games, mainly against a small pool of hand-picked opponents. Nine percent of all his victories at Everton have come against Doncaster. League survival basically boils down to eight wins against Burnley, Brentford and Bournemouth. Last season’s escape was based on five in six from November into December when the right parts aligned. He can find this energy again. Crystal Palace this weekend and a jazzed-up home crowd already looks like an opportunity.

Beyond that, it seems clear Dyche himself is unlikely to be part of the clear blue future. Most likely he sees his contract out and is replaced in the summer by a 27-year old kite-surfing Austrian in a gingham blazer and jodhpurs. All of which raises the wider question of wither Dyche and Dyche-ism now?

Not personally. The Dyche brand is strong. He could, if he chooses, pivot into a media career very easily. I would definitely listen to a tough love Sean Dyche podcast on male wellbeing. The Dyche-vehicle TV pitch meetings write themselves. Dyche on a Bike: Sean Dyche tours the UK’s coastal paths on a bicycle. Van Dyche: Sean Dyche drives around in a van. Dyche’s Reich: Sean Dyche takes a deep dive into the enduring lessons of Nazi Germany. Live and Let Dyche: thriller in which an undercover Sean Dyche foils a Caribbean drug cartel and also debunks the tarot card industry.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/sep/26/everton-takeover-friedkin-group
The wider narrative is the continuing death of a certain strain of classically British manager. With David Moyes in standby mode there is no one else in the top tier so comfortable trying to win without the ball, so fixed on high-contact defending as a primary tactic. Dyche may now become a promotion guy or a relegation-avoidance guy. But he also took Burnley into Europe with these tactics as his start point.


And while it has become fashionable to rail against anything that isn’t obviously “attacking football”, defensive organisation remains the bedrock of the spectacle, the hard carbs that add value to every other team’s ability to counter this, demanding a basic level of physicality and resistance. The league is aways a better place with a Dyche-template team in it.

Quite simply, he is just a Good Football Man. There is a habit among managers to see a season in the Premier League as a personal branding opportunity, a showpiece for a style, for your own fan appeal. Dyche will work himself into a hole trying to keep you there by any means, will do a job as opposed to a job interview. The attitude, the shapes, the energy will be right. Nothing will fall apart. This is what he brought to Everton in the crisis years, a place that really could have begun to drift into the realm of the unwell.

At the very least he deserves to be acknowledged as a key part of the life raft. Perhaps in the bright new waterside future we might even find a Dyche Bar, a Dyche footbridge, a Dyche popcorn concession. And, in time, a little fond nostalgia for those moments of living dangerously.
Never heard of him but he clearly isn't an Everton fan, and likely drunk writing that!
 
"Everton should be able to exist happily, to be a fun club with a good fanbase and a realistic sense of its own reach." What a patronising bellend.
Plenty will lap it up, unfortunately I haven’t read the echo piece by Ball, but has an ex everton player actually criticised dyche in the last 21 months. Alan Stubbs is on the view form the bullens pods and has to a degree, but in the media it’s constant head tapping, Everton will be fine, dyche will keep them up. That’s all you hear and unfortunately some of these pundits don’t really watch us, but are taken in by the noise dyche spouts.

This is why the echo journalists, guilia bould, even Boyland at the Athletic, do my head in, They’re terrified to criticise anything or anyone at the club,
We basically have nobody to fight our corner. Thomas and beesley have just constantly praised him from day one and think he should get a new deal, Beesely even had a pop at the fans at the back end of last season.

I know it’s Man Utd, but now the media and ex players are going after Ten Hag,
He’s a deadman walking. Our journalists have no standards anymore, only interested in, staying cosy with the club to get their interviews.
 

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