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Silly Season January 2014

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toffeejack said:
sorry, don't understand this like. liverpool have done nothing, spurs have got worse, yet we have stengthened.

united have strengthened yes, but not really in a position that needed strengthening, he will improve them regardless.

we've not been overshadowed by any of these in the whole of the season so far, why does that change now?
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Liverpool's front two are absolute quality - that will be enough for them.

Tottenham I agree we should finish ahead of.

United are improving, Mata is a significant signing and will get RVP and others back. It's not impossible, but it'll be difficult to hold them off.

Part of me still believes that we are only a game or two away from turning our form around, and then we know we can beat anyone. But the league is taking shape here and now, and we don't have much time to spare.
 
I'm not 100% sure if painting those who are upset with the missed opportunity in this window as children who are upset we didn't spend 100m on a player we once saw on YouTube/FM/FIFA because we got whipped into a frenzy by Sky's TV sorcery* is an entirely fair characterization of our viewpoint.

FWIW I don't disagree that we might be slightly better off (injuries aside) from this window; however I do also agree with the flip-side which is could this be a massive missed opportunity to claim fourth by not strengthening further.

I disagree with all the "well who would you buy" or "maybe nobody was available" stuff ... not on the grounds that it's demonstrably false ... but on the grounds it's missing the point. You can be disappointed by something which is perfectly true and reasonable. This was disappointing to a lot of people ... even if the reasons for no more moves are perfectly valid.

Nevertheless ... we do have a game tomorrow and hopefully that will take our minds off this window ... whatever it was.

*Composite of various straw-men used in this thread.
 
Need to win tomorrow, Arsenal to beat them lot and then things are very much back on track. We just could have really started building momentum tonight with a signing to galvanise the squad.
 
bluemangroup said:
It's pragmatism in a crazy market though. I can understand keeping your money safe untill you know what you want to buy for the most part, but would it really have hurt to syphon off 4m for a competent midfielder who can cover and offer a genuine option from the bench or competition for the first team? We cant sustain a genuine challenge with a nucleus of about 14 players.
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Howard, Robles.
Hibbert, Coleman (back next week)
Jagielka, Distin (back next week), Stones, Alcaraz (yeah fair point there like).
Baines, Garbutt
Barry, McCarthy, Osman, Barkley
Mirallas, Pienaar, McGeady,
Lukaku (back after a few games), Naismith, Traore (back next week), McAleny (trying to make things look better here).

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chicoazul said:
Howard, Robles.
Hibbert, Coleman (back next week)
Jagielka, Distin (back next week), Stones, Alcaraz (yeah fair point there like).
Baines, Garbutt
Barry, McCarthy, Osman, Barkley
Mirallas, Pienaar, McGeady,
Lukaku (back after a few games), Naismith, Traore (back next week), McAleny (trying to make things look better here).

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Compare that to the Arsenal team that finished fourth last year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012–13_Arsenal_F.C._season
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Tubey said:
We have lost Lukaku long term, Deulofeu's injury is one of those that you can't predict a recovery for, it could flare up again 5 minutes into his return, loads of players coming back but will need time to get back up and running, Jelavic gone, Heitinga gone.

And the replacements consist of an out of shape winger who will need a month to regain match fitness and a crocked striker who we're hoping beyond hope will be available before March - yet he's never kicked a ball in this league.

On paper, it's a spectacularly bad window. We needed depth urgently and we simply haven't got it. It's not a deadline day kneejerk - it's a case of speaking about it now because the window has closed, but these concerns have been expressed long before tonight. We all just assumed, perhaps naively, that we'd at least bring in a loan to cover blatant gaps as we try and challenge for something for a change when we actually have a chance to do so.
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Youve just made up the 1st two paragraphs.

We ve brought in cover for 2 positions ahead of two players who never get in the side.

Cannot predict injuries occuring and pur squad is stronger that before jan.
 
Tubey said:
Six or seven - basically rebuild a squad from scratch.

People assume the summer will see a bid for Lukaku - good luck with that if we have no European football whatsoever to speak of. Barry might come in, Deulofeu will be gone, as will Traore.

So we'd need two strikers, two central midfielders, a winger and a centre half who ideally can cover left back if required. Bare minimum. The chance of being in as good a position as we are now after that type of transition... pfft, not optimistic.

The chance was now IMO. Didn't need a world beater tonight, but we needed to make sure that we covered the worse case scenarios for the run in.
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Why would we need 6or 7 new players?

1 forward
1centre mid after barry signed for free.
 

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