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Happy new year to Everton fans:


Would someone be up for a quick Q&A for Salut! Sunderland ahead of our game at Goodison at the end of the month?

I was encouraged to post a request here for the Stadium of Light game, though on that occasion an Everton fan had already come forward (amended signpost: see later message for how he did it).





Anyone from GrandOldTeam interested? Obviously there'd be a prominent link back to this site, and rewards in heaven.

Please let me know by PM and I will send the questions.
 
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Happy new year to Everton fans:


Would someone be up for a quick Q&A for Salut! Sunderland ahead of our game at Goodison at the end of the month?

I was encouraged to post a request here for the Stadium of Light game, though on that occasion an Everton fan had already come forward. This was how he did it:



Anyone from GrandOldTeam interested? Obviously there'd be a prominent link back to this site, and rewards in heaven.

Please let me know by PM and I will send the questions.

I'd be interested mate but this is how who did what?
 
I don't think he can post links yet Monts.

May be not but he could have copied what ever it was. I put a thread in a Sunderland site before that preChristmas match, got one punter prepared to give an opinion.............it wasn't replicated here
 
May be not but he could have copied what ever it was. I put a thread in a Sunderland site before that preChristmas match, got one punter prepared to give an opinion.............it wasn't replicated here


Sorry, Monty, my error. I got the can't-post-links message and thought I had corrected the text before posting.

The easiest way of seeing what we had before the Boxing Day game is to go to the site - salutsunderland dot com - and use the search facility to look for Lyndon Lloyd , who did the honours, or David Moyes, who was mentioned in my first question. It is then the first result of the search.
 
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And since you say I should maybe have reproduced the earlier Q&A, this was it, again minus the links etc .... (I hope Toffeeweb is not a forbidden term around here_




ToffeeWeb, the much-admired independent site for supporters of Everton, has a hard centre but softer heart. Lyndon Lloyd’s instinctive response when approached by us to preview Saturday’s clash between Sunderland and Everton was to say : “Sorry, we don’t do these things. No time.” He relented because of the trouble we’d taken to hunt him down. The algebraic equation of that hunt would be Relatively Uncommon Name + Facebook = Found. But thanks Lyndon*, and Salut! Sunderland wishes you and your site a very happy Christmas marred only by disappointment on Boxing Day …



Salut! Sunderland: After all that praise for David Moyes, we are now hearing the voices of disappointment. Is it time for change?

It depends on who you ask! There are some who have long been infuriated with his conservative tactics and the propensity for his teams to fall back on the long-ball game in times of adversity, but you can’t argue with his record at Everton on a shoe-string budget.

Three consecutive top-6 finishes and, so far, the record of the only team outside of the so-called Sky Four to have cracked the Champions League places this century speak for itself and I don’t think it would do us any good right now to disrupt the consistency that we’ve enjoyed the last seven years.



Follows on from question one, but what has gone wrong and what will it take, under Moyes or anyone else, to get things right again – right as in Everton in or pushing for top four?

We’ve had a horrific run of serious, long-term injuries to key players like Mikel Arteta and Phil Jagielka and had our defence decimated this season. Part of that is down the mystifying decision not to sign two central defenders in the summer instead and only bringing in Sylvain Distin, but we’ve also been unlucky and the paper-thin squad means that Moyes hasn’t been able to rotate out players who have been under-performing.

The first part of the job — restoring confidence and the famous team spirit — appears to have been done in the last few games. The second part will be getting key players fit again and making some key loan acquisitions in January. Longer-term, we need serious investment or the right kind of billionaire buyer.

Is it inevitable that Everton and Liverpool will end up sharing one stadium? How would that go down among Evertonians if it did happen?

I don’t think it’s inevitable at all because there has been so little appetite for it at either club. If you’d asked Evertonians before the Destination Kirkby debacle, a healthy majority would have said they were against it but now, of course, desperation is causing many to rethink that standpoint.

Liverpool don’t seem interested at all and probably won’t be if or until their own new stadium plans fail but, personally, I can’t see how we could ever enter such a venture as equal partners and I’d much rather we investigate redeveloping Goodison Park.


Do you have any thoughts about Sunderland, the clubs or fans or city? Or Newcastle?

To be honest, I’m fairly ambivalent, although I’d pick the Mackems over the Magpies any day of the week and twice on Sundays! I am impressed with the way the new owners have gone about things, though, and Steve Bruce has spent well. A visit to the Stadium of Light is now regarded as a very tricky fixture and I can’t say we’re looking forward to it.

Peter Reid is an obvious link between our clubs. He had great seasons with us before it all backfired. What does he mean to you?

Reidy’s a bit of a legend at Goodison for obvious reasons — he was an integral part of our golden age in the mid- to late-1980s


Name this season’s finishing top four in order. And the bottom three.

1 Chelsea
2 Manchester United
3 Arsenal
4 Tottenham

18 West Ham
19 Portsmouth
20 Wolves


Assuming our two clubs were in neither list, where will we both end up?

Everton 8th
Sunderland 10th


Which player would you most like to see in an Everton shirt, and who wouldn’t you mind shipping out?

Probably a player like Michael Essien, a driving midfield force, or a top-class winger with pace like Ashley Young, something we’ve lacked for years. Who would I ship out? Probably Marouane Fellaini because I think we could use the money more usefully on a better player.

The Eduardo question: you need three points for a Champion League place. It’s the last second of the last game and Saha goes down in the area. Alone in the stadium, the referee doesn’t spot that it was a blatant dive. You score, win and are back among Europe’s elite. You take it gladly, take it guiltily or feel so ashamed you almost wish you’d only drawn?

To be honest, I’d take it. We were robbed when Pierluigi Collina chose the occasion of our equaliser at Villarreal in the 2005 Champions League qualifiers to make an uncharacteristically controversial — and erroneous — decision in disallowing a perfectly good goal for a non-existent push. It probably cost us an away-goals win, a place in the group stages and, perhaps, a genuine chance to join the elite on the back of all that TV revenue. For that, not to mention the Heysel ban which kept us out of the European Cup in the late 80s, I’d say we’re owed!


Should the names of Ngog, Henry and plenty of A N Others be added to that question?

Yes.

Club vs country. Rooting for England come the World Cup or too concerned with Everton’s performances to bother?

I’m hugely passionate about England when it comes to the World Cup but I’d choose
success for Everton over England every day of the week. Whether it’s injuries or our best players having their heads turned when they’re on international duty, England hasn’t been that good to the Blues in recent years.


Tell us one good thing the football authorities should do to make the game better

Be consistent. Directives from FIFA seem to come in and out of vogue so what was a nailed on offence a few years back now goes completely unpunished. For example, a decade ago, you couldn’t put your arms anywhere around a player’s shoulders; now, Fellaini is routinely held down at set-pieces with two arms around his neck and nothing is given. Just be consistent.


And will you be at the match? What will be the score?

I won’t be, no, but I predict a 1-1 draw.

* Lyndon Lloyd on Lyndon Lloyd:

I’m a graphic/web designer by trade, originally from South Africa so I have no familial ties to the City of Liverpool or Everton FC. “Evertonians are chosen…” as the saying goes.

I started supporting them in 1986 when I moved to the UK and it’s been a devotion ever since that I now channel through

ToffeeWeb which has been on the web since 1994.

** Image courtesy of the pages of unloveablesteve at Flickr
 
Thanks for that Salut, I didn't realise that Lyndon and his Toffee Web cronies were involved, we rarely see eye to eye...............if anyone else wants to do then so be it, I will do it as a last resort although my views will hardly be representative of Toffee Web which IMO is a tad backward, to say the least
 
Monty

You'd be mightily welcome - and with, as mentioned, a prominent link back to this site (ie not toffeeweb).

... Toffeeweb simply happened to answer a request before anyone else prior to the first match.

I think it's good to present the views of supporters of other teams and the quality I somertimes get from those supporters makes it a feature of my site that I'm especially proud of (to the extent of having modest awards last season) . But you'd hardly expect a Sunderland blog to get involved in little quarrels between sites for fans of those other clubs.
 
devonblue provided answers, which I reproduce below. My thanks to him, and others who initially showed interest. My mention of Grand Old Team is naturally clickable in the form in which it appears at Salut! Sunderland:


Some rival fans get stuck into Who Are You? with gusto, packing their responses with facts, opinion and humour. Barry Maddicott, an Everton-supporting chef we discovered via the fans’ site Grand Old Team, where he posts as devonblue, is in a class of his own, offering by far the shortest set of answers since the series began. Looking at the way Sunderland have been playing, it can’t be that he fears it would be unwise to give too much away ahead of tomorrow night’s game. Perhaps he just prefers to do his talking at the stove. Welcome, in any case, to this parish, Barry …

Whatever happened in the FA Cup (beaten at home by Birmingham), you must fancy your chances of getting a hatfull againt us after our run.

Of course but will settle for 1-0


Everton have been on fire. Can you put your finger on what it was that changed your season around?

The return of Neville, and Fellaini playing in his favoured position.


Does it give you added pleasure that Liverpool have been going through such a tough patch on and off the field?

Oh yes.


Peter Reid, Paul Bracewell and Peter Reid are among the names associuated with both clubs. Any memories or thoughs on them, and other links between us?

Both legends.


What have been the highs and lows of supporting Everton?

Highs 85-87, lows everything after that.


Has our dreadful form surprised you or did we just flatter to deceive earlier in the season?

Injuries hit hard when you have a small squad.

Name this season’s top four in order, and the bottom three?

Chelsea
Arsenal
Man Utd
Spurs

West Ham, Bolton, Portsmouth


If Everton and/or Sunderland were in neither list where will each of our clubs finish?

Everton 8th
Sunderland top 12

The Eduardo question. Arsenal fans hate the way I’ve personalised this but: last second of the last game of the season. A top four place depends on a win. Saha goes down and everyone except the ref knows he dived. You score the penalty and win. Take it gladly, take it guiltily or feel so ashamed you almost wish you’d missed out?

Take it gladly.


Was it outrageous to mention Saha in the context of such a question? Who are the game’s worst divers?

Gerrard.


Club v country. Who wins for you, and why? And does it make a difference to you in a World Cup year>

Club. I’m an Everton fan who follows England.


Name one thing the football authorities or Everton could do to improve the lot of the supporters.

New stadium

And will you be there on Wednesday? What will be the score?

3-1 and no.


* Barry Maddicott on Barry Maddicott: 38, lives in south Devon, followed Everton for 25 years now, currently unemployed chef.


** Photo of Goodison Park from Gene Hunt’s Flickr pages
 
Devon Blue living up to his reputation of giving long and thought out opinions I see :lol:

I especially liked...

What have been the highs and lows of supporting Everton?

Highs 85-87, lows everything after that.

Dreadful winning that crappy FA Cup in 1995. And finishing above Liverpool in 2005 to qualify for the champions league, what a major low that was.
 

Devon Blue living up to his reputation of giving long and thought out opinions I see :lol:

I especially liked...



Dreadful winning that crappy FA Cup in 1995. And finishing above Liverpool in 2005 to qualify for the champions league, what a major low that was.

i see you still haven't found your sense of humour but when you've seen the best team in europe of their time we have been piss poor since
and finishing 4th was great but not worth celebrating.
 
i see you still haven't found your sense of humour but when you've seen the best team in europe of their time we have been piss poor since
and finishing 4th was great but not worth celebrating.

Nothing to do with sense of humour, you actually think we've been piss poor between 1987-2010 and nothing we've done in that time has been worth celebrating. Good for you lad.
 
Another kick-off ??? These threads are gettin' out of hand , Peep's .
Mate , I used to work at Doxford Park , but me kids talk Geordie - Evertonians , both , however - , so I suppose that disqualifies , eh ???
 
Nothing to do with sense of humour, you actually think we've been piss poor between 1987-2010 and nothing we've done in that time has been worth celebrating. Good for you lad.

we have been piss poor if you think different fine i remember winning the league and cup winners cup and having a team challenge every year now we celebrate finishing fourth quite a dip in my eyes
 
You need to put things in perspective DB. I'll give you that the early 90's and then the late 90's/early 00's were quite poor. But things have been much brighter under Moyes and you shouldn't dismiss finishing 4th, 6th, 5th, 5th as being piss poor considering what we're competing against these days.
 

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